Work Question Regarding Call Back and Overtime.

[ultrarunner]

When I had a job that I did not like (for several different reasons), I just quit and moved to a different job or occupation. Worked until I was laid off at 74 years old, along with 15 others (most of which were "older"). Generally I liked what I was doing and where I was doing it or just moved on. Sometimes it was a "take this job and shove it". Sometimes it was I found a "better job". Sometimes it was straight commission....sometimes it was salary with bonus....sometimes it was time clock. I fit the job to my needs and went at it wholeheartedly.

Good Luck Ultra
Mike

Working to 74 sounds like you had a good handle on things... none of the men in my family have ever retired... worked until they dropped... the farming side it was more slowing down but still very much engaged.

If I had to be concise it would be Corp isn't following their own policies and procedures and the goal posts keep shifting... and reason is often no where to be found.

Not to get to far into the weeds...

A couple of months back the Fire Department was called... it was after my shift otherwise it would not have happened.

Policy is NO ONE enters a steril area unless dressed in Scrubs... no Street Clothes... makes perfect sense and the way it should be... 99.9% of the time.

But... the charge nurse stopped the Fire Department cold saying they could not enter with their Turn-Out gear and had to first go back to the staff locker rooms and change and their equipment would need to be wiped down first.

My thought is REALLY... and I heard about it from the Battalion Chief later...

We called 911 and Fire is Johnny on the spot and then told they have to change clothes first???

Either it is a 911 emergency or not... really made us look foolish... there I go again... saying "WE" and "Us" and was not even there.

 

[ultrarunner]

Tough situation for sure.

But quite simply you are not required to go in on call, nor do you receive call pay.

So if you continue to go in on call being a nice guy.....knowing that you dont have to.....you are basically agreeing that the company can take those hours back within the same pay period.

You have been given a simple directive.....dont exceed 40hrs a week. You can choose to work your normal work week to get that. Or you can go in on call and adjust schedule later.

I really think its time you be planning your exit though

At On-Boarding... HR said OT is built into the budget for my position but also said there is no On-Call provision so no obligation to respond... I can live with that.

What I was not expecting is OT now being a problem and the emphasis on Perfect Time Cards is number one priority... nothing takes the wind out of your sales hearing two weeks later you did a great job but we can't have a repeat...

 

[airbiscuit]

You've had a great run, but it might be time to admit you've won and move on.

If you do the balance sheet, and you are more happy than not, then stay. If not leave. If you fuss as much with them as you do on this forum, one has to wonder if you are viewed as a maintenance employee, or a "high maintenance" employee. Your bitterness towards the new company will affect you more than them.

I'm not saying that I agree with their methods, but one way or another, move on.

 

[ultrarunner]

I did submit my written resignation in April and this was after I turned down the on boarding Job Offer back in December because I could see no provision was made to do essential tasks that must be done for a Hospital to function.

Both times I was asked to stay with the promise that we just need to get through the period of adjustment... corp even sent out counselors company wide to Help manage change... it started with breathing exercises...

Managers and senior staff that resigned were told the same but left anyway... they were either Older or MUCH younger... two key Directors agreed to extend their two seek notice by 30 days which was above and beyond and it is a loss is still reverberating 6 months later... heck their pictures are still up in the break room from their last day...

I get it... it is not our company anymore... we were actually owners in that many of the long time employees held ESOP stock shares...

 

[flyerdan]

Sad to say, and I know it'll go against your grain, but you might have to let a few balls drop. When you get a call to go in, be in Denver for the weekend or some other inaccessible spot, advise them to call one of the women who wouldn't know what to do. When a few surgeries get canceled, the cutters will start squawking, maybe they'll listen to them.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Unfortunately what you describe is becoming typical. You can only talk with your feet, and they still dont care, because corp is not in the trenches doing the work.
Friend of mine left a hospital engineering job a couple yrs ago, says its the best decision he ever made. Especially for his health.

Place i used to work many yrs ago drove out all the Sr. Engineers to save money, then wondered how "we" let all the corporate knowledge leave. They promoted inept smoothtalking brownnosers who knew nothing about engineering, so i left. They just hired another, everyone is replaceable.

 

[downsizingnow48]

Ultra you are smart capable compassionate loyal. Do not throw your years away in a place where those qualities are not valued. Make the break soon.

 

[Citydude]

Living by the rules no matter what the circumstances shows a visionless management. Sounds like a management afraid of making decisions so they just hold up the rules and hide behind them.

Glad your nearing the end of your tenure there as things sound pretty bad for a good employee. The not so good employees will excel in that environment.

 

[3930dave]

As I said to somebody recently (about corporations) "I work for an accounting company, that just happens to have a few ______ lying around". Fill the blank in with whatever gets marketed to the public.

Nothing trumps the accounting, and HR is there pretty much exclusively to minimize corporate liability.

One of the reasons large corporations exist is that it is much simpler/easier/faster to buy the competition out, than compete at a higher level. After you go through this downward spiral once, many people just leave ASAP if they experience another corp takeover.

Getting things done in the real world mostly comes down to 2 things..... Make a Decision, then, Take Action. Someone who functions at a high level in those 2 areas (and is further encumbered with ethics, integrity.....) often doesn't do well in most large corp environments, as the only other corp priority other than the budget is avoiding Risk.

Often the people that do well in corporations mostly combine zero ethics with enough smarts to avoid getting publicly caught.

One upside to not fitting into today's corp world is that you can look yourself in the mirror in the morning. Been there, did that.

Rgds, D.

 

[ultrarunner]

There is a clear difference... the new fresh grads no nothing else and many are very good in that they are eager to learn and apply themselves.

What more often than not lately is a problem retaining talent... we put two years into a Surgical Nurse or Tech and something better comes along... can't blame them.

Not sure how many know the name Kaiser in Health Care? We have produced a lot of top notch people for Kaiser as they are super selective when it comes to experience and are people do real well there...

When the OR Director left... didn't even have a plan... just needed a break and took a month with his family and extended family... when he came home there were dozens of calls offering jobs... many of those he trained went to work at various Kaiser Hospitals so when the word got out he was made an offer he could not refuse... and he deserves it.

The reality in today's Healthcare is you take care of your RN's and the best OR Techs... everyone else can be outsourced...

This thread has helped me to work through my thinking process... those willing to move on have the best position when it comes to negotiation... as least in Real Estate.