Wonder why parts aren’t available?

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A dumpster diver on FB found a bunch of brand new excavator parts in the dumpster. Whoever dumped didn’t even bother to cash in on scrap value :unsure:

 
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Many companies only stock parts for 10 years. Actually saw that at an Oliver/White warehouse when they had one on Columbus, Ohio. Went with a buddy to pick up some parts on will call since it was so close, and would save a day or so before going through the pipeline to the dealership.

Also, scrap companies will provide roll off containers to places like that, and will pick them up saving them hauling it in. Probably lucky he didn't get arrested...
 
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Many companies only stock parts for 10 years. Actually saw that at an Oliver/White warehouse when they had one on Columbus, Ohio. Went with a buddy to pick up some parts on will call since it was so close, and would save a day or so before going through the pipeline to the dealership.

Also, scrap companies will provide roll off containers to places like that, and will pick them up saving them hauling it in. Probably lucky he didn't get arrested...
Yea? I needed a flywheel ring gear for a 29yr old kubota tractor and there wasn't one in the country..but I had one in my hand in 3 weeks.

Just 2 weeks ago I needed a track tensioner bearing and seal for my 34yr old kubota mini ex..Messiks had it in stock and in my hands in 5 days.

I also recently changed the front hub seals on a 22yr old NH and had the parts in 5 days.
 
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Let me rephrase that, discontinued models that may not use the same part in newer models. Bearings & seals are usually standard item parts of a certain size across the board used in numerous applications.

Flywheel ring gear could be used in several models. Heck I can still get them for my 40's era Farmall's. Pricey but they have them. Being as frugal as I am I went with aftermarket at 1/3 the price.

And, there is one company I know of that buys those NOS parts and resells. Sad thing is, some states, probably many have an inventory tax, that anything a dealer has in stock is taxed. Not sure the rate, but must be enough it's not worth keeping those old parts. I know of several that has written those parts off as scrap but still in stock. One in particular was a 30 year old NOS/NIB 3 speed aux. transmission for my '65 Ford 2000 at a small out in the country dealer. Just the luck of the draw.
 
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Also, scrap companies will provide roll off containers to places like that, and will pick them up saving them hauling it in. Probably lucky he didn't get arrested...
The ones I’ve dealt with wouldn’t take the assortment of boxes and wrappers shown.
 
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The ones I’ve dealt with wouldn’t take the assortment of boxes and wrappers shown.
Maybe in small amounts, but a container full of clean NOS parts more than likely will. Or could be they are going to a parts reseller as mentioned.
 
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Maybe in small amounts, but a container full of clean NOS parts more than likely will. Or could be they are going to a parts reseller as mentioned.
Doesn’t seem like you watched the video so……
 

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Oh, I definitely watched it, but have also been to enough scrap yards they have or have had in the past enough help around to sort stuff like that out. That's primo scrap, no rusty stuff, probably going to select buyers that will pay more for that type of scrap that will justify the sorting. Happens a lot here.
 
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To a company, that stuff has already been paid for, depreciated and charged off at a considerable gain to the company for tax relief. Selling it, in any manner, would subject the company to a host of accounting, legal and tax problems. It's not worth it so it goes into a bin.
 
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Doesn’t seem like you watched the video so……
So, what is that guy going to do with all of that stuff? Haul it all to the scrapyard at 10 cents a pound?

Or trickle it out on E-Bay over the next decade?

Some of it would likely be a good alloy for making knives, or other high tensile forging.
 
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I just started working on my CAT 977K. So far no big parts for it.

I took some hydraulic hoses to the local CAT dealer.

I've taken Ford, Kubota, and John Deere hoses to them and they've made them all on the spot. But for the CAT hoses, they only had the parts in stock to make 1 hose. 2 more hoses had to wait for fittings to come in.

I wanted it running last week, and pushed to get all the parts. Eventually I'll probably go through and replace quite a few hoses and clean up other parts.
 
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Watching the video, I'd say none of the stuff was final machined and that tells me they are rejects for whatever reason. I do some 'dumpster diving' myself and it's rare today to find anything worth keeping and most places will call the law on you for doing it anyway. My best dumpsters are at Lowes, Home Despot and Harbor Freight actually.
 
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Watching the video, I'd say none of the stuff was final machined and that tells me they are rejects for whatever reason. I do some 'dumpster diving' myself and it's rare today to find anything worth keeping and most places will call the law on you for doing it anyway. My best dumpsters are at Lowes, Home Despot and Harbor Freight actually.
How much more machining do you expect?
A few track pads? Ready to install?
A pile of wear plates of some sort. Painted. Looked ready to install.
A bunch of nuts and bolts. I didn't see them closely, but could be the track bolts I'm looking for.
A few large bearings.
I'm not seeing anything that screams defective to me.

It more likely is spare wear parts for an excavator that either broke down or was sold, and the new model doesn't use the same parts.

He'll probably get $100 to $200 for a pickup load of scrap steel.

Throw it up on E-Bay, Craigslist, and Facebook, and it is easily a $10,000 load, but it will take some work to sell it.
 
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Throw it up on E-Bay, Craigslist, and Facebook, and it is easily a $10,000 load, but it will take some work to sell it.

Didn't watch the video on this one, but I've had pretty good luck selling power tool parts on Ebay. I had a DeWalt compressor motor die and a bandsaw I was trying to sell after I upgraded, but some parts stripped out and I didn't think it was worth repairing. I took both apart and sold the parts in small related assemblies, listing all part numbers from Ereplacementparts, a few pictures, and the model number of the unit. Almost all items sold without much effort. It was easier if it was something that would fit in a Priority Mail box of some type.
 
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The problem with dozer and excavator parts is that everything gets heavy quickly. While one track pad might fit in a priority box, a half a dozen of them will be overweight.

There was one pin of some sort that was so heavy that the guy just left it in the dumpster.

One could ship one of those wear plates, but undoubtedly a buyer would want the whole pile. Freight? Local Sales?
 
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To a company, that stuff has already been paid for, depreciated and charged off at a considerable gain to the company for tax relief. Selling it, in any manner, would subject the company to a host of accounting, legal and tax problems. It's not worth it so it goes into a bin.
Correct. I did contract work for a Ford warehouse in Canada and they did the same thing. Into the scrap bin, when I ask why they did not sell it to their dealers at a discounted price they told me in the bin is a 100% tax write off whereas selling it is only a partial tax write off. Standing looking into that roll off bin was heart breaking but the bean counters know there stuff. One of Fords security guards would follow the truck from. The warehouse to the gate of the scrap yard to make sure the driver was not unloading at his house on the way.
 

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