Windows 2000 Administrative Problem

Inspector507 · Dec 23, 2003

I noticed the DHCP settings are different on the 2......I have no idea if that would matter though.

MikePA · Dec 23, 2003

Oscar has no trouble getting to the Internet, right?

Does Oscar have something like ZoneAlarm running on it? If so, is ZoneAlarm preventing the Server service from running?

MikePA · Dec 23, 2003

Something else to try is to boot Oscar with the Windows2000 CD in the CD drive then specify Repair. There should have been an error message generated when the Server service failed to start. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

BillyP · Dec 23, 2003

This is way too deep for me. Heck, I just figured out how to stop the clicking sound, when I change web pages.

BILL_K · Dec 23, 2003

Set the DNS server the same for Oscar as you did for Audrie.
You have Oscar looking for DNS info on Audrie and it is not set up as a DNS server
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MikePA · Dec 23, 2003

Set the DNS server the same for Oscar as you did for Addray.
You have Oscar looking for DNS info on Adray and it is not set up as a DNS server 
Jerry, each PC is set up to use DHCP. Which PC on your network is the DHCP server? Typically, in a home/small business the DSL/Cable Firewall/Router does this.

Hank · Dec 23, 2003

Ok, here is the ipconfig/all for Oscar. (the problem machine) 

It looks like Oscar was perhaps your Direcway host machine at one time, and have you uninstalled the Direcway software from Oscar?

cup149 · Dec 23, 2003

BillyP,

It's possible to turn the click off? It's really anoying when listening to music.

MossRoad · Dec 23, 2003

It appears that Oscar is set up to get his IP number from Audrie and his DNS information from Audrie.

Now look at your system log message again. It states that the DNS Client service could not contact any DNS servers.... Oscar thinks Audrie is a DNS server. My guess is she isn't set up to be a DNS server. Make sure Audrie is up and running, change Oscar's DNS setting to the same IP number that Audrie is using for DNS(198.77.116.8), then reboot Oscar. See if this works.

FYI... 198.77.116.8 appears to be the name server for Direcpc .

ns.direcpc.com 198.77.116.8

Mrwurm · Dec 24, 2003

Wow, you guys are too smart. Here are a few comments:

Hank, you are right on. In the past the roles were reversed. Oscar used to be the direcway host, but now is a client of Audrie. For those who are'nt familiar. Direcway sattellite internet works by running software on a host machine (Audrie). Audrie then distributes internet connectivity via Microsoft ICS protocal bound to the network adapter. I know just enough about this to sound like I know what I'm talking about, even though I don't.

Oops, I'm out of time. I have to get out the door for Christmas. I'll be back on the case within the next few days.

Thanks to all. Happy Holidays.

JASTN70D · Dec 24, 2003

The Oscar machine should be setup to get DNS from Audrey he is using internet sharing.

The problem he is having is related to file and print sharing which if he was not doing he would not even need the Server service. the protocol ini file is possibly corrupt it needs to be recreated. It probably was corrupted on the last change that is related to downgrading Oscar from the Internet share PC/Stateline connector. Rewriting the Protocol Ini will happen when you make changes to the Network Configuration.

Uninstall at least file and print sharing and then reinstall it is the best shot. Seeing how the Pc can use the internet I would not change the DNS setting. Your network could be reconfigured to not use internet sharing but it appears the Satellite router is not doing DHCP so it would require a manual config. It is the default for the Router to do DHCP and you could have 2 on your network this could cause some problems but I do not see a problem related to that.

The error message about DNS is odd on Oscar. But it does not seem to be causing a problem. It could be that the networking between Oscar and Audrey (the DNS Server) is flaky and causing the error for DNS this would lead back to a possible corrupt Protocol Ini file.

John

Hank · Dec 24, 2003

Oscar used to be the direcway host 

The reason I asked is a suspicion that might be the problem with the Server service. The Server service tries to bind with a network adapter at boot up, so it can do its job. If the old Direcway software is there, it might be trying the Direcway USB network adapter first at boot, and then later tries your regular NIC when you start the service manually. Just a thought.

JASTN70D · Dec 24, 2003

Hank

Actually I was under the impression it binds with a protocol but it does get fuzzy there. Again the INI file would be misconfigured if the service was trying to bind to a none existent NIC

Mrwurm · Dec 24, 2003

Hank and John,
Thanks for dedicating so much brain power to my problem. In the great scheme of things, this is a minor problem but I'll fix it if I can.

NEWS FLASH ! !
Fedex has just dropped off my new Direway 6000 modem. This new modem is self hosting. It has its own processor and uses network connectivity. The old modem used USB connectivity. What does all this mean?
It means that I will be installing the new modem on Saturday and removing ICS from the Network adapter on Audrie. The new modem can feed directly into a network hub and won't need ICS. I will reconfigure the network adapter on Audrie and I will delete the network adapter on Oscar and start over fresh. The instructions from Direway are quite detailed as to how to configure the adapters, TCIP, DNS, and all that other stuff that I sort of muddle through. Hopefully, all will be well.

If all else fails, I will reformat Oscar and reload Windows 2000. Oscar is a bit quirky. It locks up a bit too often and flat out refuses to install Microsoft Office 2000 (and some other programs too). Oscar is a Pentium 2.4Ghz, 512mg Ram, 80Gb hard drive.

dieselsmoke1 · Dec 24, 2003

Do you have an option to reloading 2000? Are you willing to try?

We've banishing 2000 from our network because of various conflicts. In our case 98SE and XP share connectivity happily with each other, but add one 2000 and all goes to @#$%.

MikePA · Dec 25, 2003

That's good news, Jerry. Getting the DirecWay software, as well as ICS, off your PCs will no doubt solve all your problems. BTW, where I work we have over 10,000 desktops running Windows2000, a few hundred running WindowsNT, plus 150 Windows2000 servers all in an Active Directory environment. No problems.

Hank · Dec 25, 2003

we have over 10,000 desktops running Windows2000, a few hundred running WindowsNT, plus 150 Windows2000 servers all in an Active Directory environment. No problems 

Same here, Mike, but on a smaller scale, and our desktops are a mix of 2000 and XP. A year ago they were all 2000. We were very gratified when we upgraded our desktops to 2000 and could leave Windows 9x behind.

MikePA · Dec 25, 2003

We were very gratified when we upgraded our desktops to 2000 and could leave Windows 9x behind 
Thankfully, we didn't have to deal with Windows98! Either NT or 2000. We were going to skip XP and wait for the next desktop, but since that was delayed, we'll be migrating to XP Pro. By 2Q04, all our desktops should be either 2000 Pro or XP Pro.

I was in charge of merging 2 networks, running different NOSs (Novell and Banyan) then converting from NT4 domain to AD. I attended all the classes the technicians did and also passed all the MCSE tests (NT) with them. Gave me a great appreciation of what the staff had to do, plus helped in making better decisions. Only one person was re-certified under Win2K. All of us will probably get re-certified for Windows2003 Server.

Hank · Dec 25, 2003

we didn't have to deal with Windows98! 

When I joined this company in 1995, our desktops were Windows 3.11 and servers were NT 3.51. We've followed the Microsoft upgrade path, with the servers always on NT and now 2000.

riptides · Dec 25, 2003

( We were very gratified when we upgraded our desktops to 2000 and could leave Windows 9x behind)

And you all will feel the same way when you introduce 2003 servers into your environment. Good ridance 200x.

-Merry Christmas!
-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif