Which Trailer

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rickyb01

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Looking at getting a trailer that will work with my Ford 4630 it's FEL and 10' bush hog. Combined weight will be around 10,000 pounds so I know the 7,000 pound axles will fit the bill. My problem is I would love to have a tilt trailer but all the ones I have looked at have the raised fender welds. I really like the bumper pull 20' tilt. My tractor with some rubbing will barely fit between the trailer fenders which is 84" . I really don't want to go with the over the deck trailer because the height of the load. I have thought about the trailer that has the drive over fenders. One tire will be up higher than the other will that cause a problem. I guess it all comes down to how good I strap it down. Never hauled this tractor before but want to take it to a piece of property I own about 50 miles away. Any suggestions on which trailer to get? You guys have always been very knowledgeable in theses areas. Thanks Rck
 
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I personally would NOT load an unbalanced load, meaning one side up on a fender, and I wouldn't trust the fender to support the load under road stresses, which are much greater than loading stress is.

Is there a tilt model that is a deck-over style, that would reduce your load height, or a partial tilt deck?
 
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I think you are pretty limited for low deck height on a deck over trailer. Once you need to have a deck wider than 83" between the fenders you're in deck over territory. The problem then is the deck height jumps about 10". That is mainly because 14K trailers use 16" tires and the deck needs to be higher to clear. I have a 14K PJ model TF 22' full tilt trailer and deck height is 22". The wider deck over for example is a T9 model available in 24' - 30' lengths with a 32" deck height. I looked at several brands of deck overs and 32" seems to be the lowest deck height.

The models with drive over fenders have lower deck heights except to properly balance the load one set of the tractors wheels will be on the fenders. I would not want to haul a vehicle with one set of tires on the fenders even though they may be rated for the weight.
 
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Thanks guys and that was exactly what I was looking for. It seems the widest split tilt trailer will be 84" between the fender welds. I will either have to deal with the tires rubbing or go with a deck over. Thanks Rick
 
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I currently have a F150 but will be upgrading to a 3/4 ton or maybe a 1 ton. I have a good lead on a nice deck over trailer. It is a bit overkill but I think for the money it is the better option. It is a three axle goose neck trailer that is 30' long and tilts. The wheels need to be replaced and bearings need to be looked over, but the trailer can be purchased for 2500.00 cash.
 
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What an your plans for the 10' brush hog? I don't see any reason not to go with a real wide deck over and get most of the shredder on the deck. As far as optics, it'll look better on quick glance vs a narrow trailer and huge hangover

Brett
 
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Can you narrow the tractors width?
 
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Can you narrow the tractors width?
This^^ If the tires are just rubbing the trailer fenders, they are probably set around 68 inch center-to-center. I would reposition them to 64". (Unless you require the current setting for specialty row-crop work.)
 
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I know my Big Tex 22' (16' tilt, 6 stationary ) has removable fenders but I have no need as yet to remove them so don't know how much it gains.
 
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I assume you plan on hauling the shredder sideways and disconnected from the tractor?
 
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I assume you plan on hauling the shredder sideways and disconnected from the tractor?

Is that really necessary? We are allowed 14' for implents of husbandry IIRC in PA. I've hauled my MX10 10' mounted to the tractor several times a year and I never get a second look.

OP, I'd be really careful looking at a 20' trailer, that sounds a touch short to me, I would measure the tractor and mower to see where you are at, and don't forget that the tractor is either going to be way up front, or way in the back, and you are going to have to figure out how to balance the load accordingly. I have a fixed 20' flat section on my GN and the tractor without the loader and the brushhog just hanging over the beavertail fits pretty well. (going off of memory here a bit) I do have a substantial amount of tongue weight doing this since the tractor is almost entirely in front of the trailer axles but the 17k rear axle of the truck could careless. (800lb suitcase weight, wheel weights, and loaded rears) YMMV. :thumbsup:
 
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around here you need a permit for a load greater than 102" UNLESS used for farming. i don't know how the powers that be would look at it if it was on a trailer.

they make pierced frame deck overs which lower the deck height several inches

the driver over fender trailers have stout fenders whether or not the would flex, bend, crack with the stress from transporting a tractor i have no idea.
 
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Is that really necessary? We are allowed 14' for implents of husbandry IIRC in PA.

I have no idea about each state but I think many allow you over width on implements if they are being pulled down the road with a tractor but this exemption does not extend to cover implements on a trailer. Might check it out in your state before you buy a trailer.
 
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I currently have a F150 but will be upgrading to a 3/4 ton or maybe a 1 ton. I have a good lead on a nice deck over trailer. It is a bit overkill but I think for the money it is the better option. It is a three axle goose neck trailer that is 30' long and tilts. The wheels need to be replaced and bearings need to be looked over, but the trailer can be purchased for 2500.00 cash.

Check the laws in your state. A three axle trailer likely has a GVWR of 21,000 lb. Coupled with any truck that puts you over 26k. Most likely will not need a CDL just hauling your tractor around but you may very well need a Class A non commercial license.
 
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Check the laws in your state. A three axle trailer likely has a GVWR of 21,000 lb. Coupled with any truck that puts you over 26k. Most likely will not need a CDL just hauling your tractor around but you may very well need a Class A non commercial license.

Put farm plates on it and stay in the state!
 

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