Where are all the laborers?

[creekbend]

I have to use crutches to get around and even with that can't make it very far.

I would be tickled to death to be able to get off the tractor and do it myself.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:I know exactly what you mean. Best wishes and take care.

 

[Ken]

Son in law has a Hydro seeding business and for help has been using Firemen off duty nothing to do . Healthy and used to pulling 3 inch hoses.
The Needing workers will not work . The free plastic card for there needs(Wants) and extra if there is children.
Medical treatment for any illness. cell phone for all children .
And work cuts into the hunting fishing 4 whling on others land.
Been studying Ayn Ryan's author of the speach of John Gault The time is coming when it is to true.
Moochers .
ken

 

[RDrancher]

In my high school days, many of us found work mixing mud by hand for brick layers during the summer. I'd bet you won't find many of the kids these days who would even consider doing that even with a mud mixing machine.

No kidding! Last summer I had the kid and his friend dig 40 post holes with a two-man auger in a backyard in Decatur. You shoulda heard the whining. Granted it was hot, but you'd think I'd forced them to spend the day with the devil himself!

 

[Wnc3]

I commend you for not wanting to hire illegals but if you want someone to work cheap, who will be there seven days a week, who will work from sunup to sundown and bust their butts doing it - with some training, go with an illegal. It's what many, many businesses do for the above reasons. No complaints, no raises, etc. Perfect employees except for the language barrier.

...and this just about sums it up. They are here and they have to eat. Better to pay for the work you need done than have them turn to crime. Find one you like and you will cry the day he has to leave....

 

[TripleR]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:I know exactly what you mean. Best wishes and take care.

I think we are pretty much in the same boat and hated to even bring it up. Not complaining, it could always be worse. My sons say they will keep me going if they have to get a motorized wheel chair with knobbies on it.:laughing:

My father in law had heart problems and double hip replacements and he kept crawling up on the tractor until the day he died driving it up behind our house working on a road.

 

[RDrancher]

I commend you for not wanting to hire illegals but if you want someone to work cheap, who will be there seven days a week, who will work from sunup to sundown and bust their butts doing it - with some training, go with an illegal. It's what many, many businesses do for the above reasons. No complaints, no raises, etc. Perfect employees except for the language barrier.

...and this just about sums it up. They are here and they have to eat. Better to pay for the work you need done than have them turn to crime. Find one you like and you will cry the day he has to leave....

No thanks. And I'm not pulling the holier than thou card. I've employed a lot of questionably legal hispanics in the past that I miss a bunch. In fact, I can name each and every one of them. I always required a green card or social, but I know that some of them were bogus. I looked the other way because they were excellent employees and great guys to be around. I'm just not going to go there again.

 

[RDrancher]

I think we are pretty much in the same boat and hated to even bring it up. Not complaining, it could always be worse. My sons say they will keep me going if they have to get a motorized wheel chair with knobbies on it.:laughing:

My father in law had heart problems and double hip replacements and he kept crawling up on the tractor until the day he died driving it up behind our house working on a road.

I completely understand and don't want you to think I'm lazy for wanting to stay on the equipment. It's self preservation. I'm a concrete finisher by trade and hated the day I finally had to put my bucket of trowels away and say no to it. I loved finishing concrete.

I've had two back surgeries, double joint replacements in my feet (twice) and nerve relocation surgery in my arm. I can still get down and do all of the ground work when I have to, but usually pay dearly for it. I still have three under my roof to feed and raise, so this body has to last awhile longer.

 

[TripleR]

I completely understand and don't want you to think I'm lazy for wanting to stay on the equipment. It's self preservation. I'm a concrete finisher by trade and hated the day I finally had to put my bucket of trowels away and say no to it. I loved finishing concrete.

I've had two back surgeries, double joint replacements in my feet (twice) and nerve relocation surgery in my arm. I can still get down and do all of the ground work when I have to, but usually pay dearly for it. I still have three under my roof to feed and raise, so this body has to last awhile longer.

I can sure understand that. I don't think anyone is lazy and sure don't pass judgement; someone else brought it up telling someone to get off the tractor and do it themselves rather than hire it done.

One of my sons is in a similar situation to you in that by looking at him, he looks fine and can actually do a lot of work, but pays dearly for it.

Now you can take one look at me and know I can't do much. Not too long ago, my twin grand daughters were helping me and explained to my wife, "He's too old to pick up sticks." Cracked me up.:laughing:

 

[RoyJackson]

Finding any consistent help has been a problem for me ever since I moved here to Texas.

Try finding a recently released prisoner...someone who was imprisoned for a non-violent offense, of course.

 

[edlegault]

A few years ago a friend of mine hired a high school cheer leader squad and their coaches to do a bunch of farm labor (mostly pick up root pieces and rocks out of a new field, and put in hay from another). Couldn't get the football guys to work. Said it was the best workers he ever had for a summer. They were trying to raise money for a trip somewhere and made enough to cover most of their costs. He included food and drinks along with actual wages. Make sure you follow whatever (child) labor laws there are in your state and have insurance (workman's comp or whatever).

We used to use youth from church groups to do yard/brush clearing. They worked hard, too.

 

[Egon]

Some of us labourer's just got worn out and were put out to pasture!:thumbsup:

 

[charliepff]

Definately try the firehouses around you. I know most of the guys that work the 24hr shifts around us have second jobs.

 

[newbury]

Another potential source is to check with your local National Guard. It depends on the area but they are a good source of young men with some training, usually have to have at least a minimal security clearance and can use our support.

 

[SPYDERLK]

If you need to hire someone just to pick up rocks or move a garden hose why hire someone? Get off your tractor and do it your self.

I want to pay people to do jobs that they can do to free me to do jobs I want to do myself. Transferring initiative is a real trick. Everything takes time. Herding people without initiative takes too much time.
larry

 

[Arsavoie]

I want to pay people to do jobs that they can do to free me to do jobs I want to do myself. Transferring initiative is a real trick. Everything takes time. Herding people without initiative takes too much time.
larry

You made no sense at all in your statement.

 

[Ductape]

I've been on both sides of this, as an employer, and an employee. IMO, when you are willing to pay a reasonable amount, a decent person will hang around. No one wants to work like a slave for $10 / hr (how much does gas cost to get back and forth to work?). Only option there, as far as I can see, is illegals. Unfortunately, alot of guys that are worth more than they are getting paid move on to something that pays better.

 

[TripleR]

Made perfect sense to me.

 

[Arsavoie]

I've been on both sides of this, as an employer, and an employee. IMO, when you are willing to pay a reasonable amount, a decent person will hang around. No one wants to work like a slave for $10 / hr (how much does gas cost to get back and forth to work?). Only option there, as far as I can see, is illegals. Unfortunately, alot of guys that are worth more than they are getting paid move on to something that pays better.

I agree with you . But the op wants to have a man work like a dog and then pay him less just so he can get rich. No one wants to work like that.

 

[SPYDERLK]

You made no sense at all in your statement.

Do you have a question? Im not going to try to teach you reading comprehension. I wouldnt even try to pay someone to do it. Couldnt afford to hire that level of expertise.
larry