Where痴 the clutch?

   / Where痴 the clutch? #1  

labrun

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69 Ford 4500
I inherited a 69 Ford 5600 Industrial tractor with a loader. It doesn稚 run and I知 thinking of fixing up but, I can稚 even find the clutch and I can稚 get it out of gear. Where痴 the clutch? What kind of transmission is this? Thanks!!
 
   / Where痴 the clutch?
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#3  
I checked the s/n and is D5011F so it's a 4000 industrial diesel, no PTO, 4/4TC power reversing. Year was 69 and I still can't find a clutch and what is a 4/4 TC power reversing transmission?
Thanks!
 
   / Where痴 the clutch? #4  
If it is sitting on the level, you should be able to pop it out of gear even without the clutch. I presume there should be a 4 speed + reverse transmission gearshift, and a couple of speed rearend (second shift lever).

Although, perhaps the Industrial version had something different than the ag version??? Hydrostatic?

Photos on the internet show a pretty typical clutch.

Ford5600Clutch.jpg

Is the linkage there? What about the throwout lever? You might be able to put a large adjustable wrench or monkey wrench (not a pipe wrench) on the lever and twist it a little.
 
   / Where痴 the clutch?
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#5  
I don't know if it is worth fixing a 69 4500 industrial diesel, no PTO, 4/4TC power reversing. What is a 4/4 TC power reversing transmission? If it's hydrostatic does the engine needs to be running to get it into neutral?
Thanks!
 
   / Where痴 the clutch? #6  
If the unit has been setting for some time the clutch has probably rusted to the flywheel.
 
   / Where痴 the clutch? #7  
Might be a model with a Torque Converter, common on industrial loaders.
 
   / Where痴 the clutch?
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#8  
Could be because the s/n show the transmission as: 4/4 TC power reversing. I'll research it but, the "TC" could mean "Torque Converter".
Thanks!
 
   / Where痴 the clutch? #9  
1969 4000 industrial sounds like a 4500. I had one for 17 years. It had the 4 speed power reverser. I assume yours is the same. It has a torque converter. The power reverser {Forward, neutral and reverse) is controlled by a lever on the dash on the left side of the steering column. The 4 speeds (available in both forward and reverse) is a mechanical gear set (non-synchronized) controlled by a shift lever on top of the transmission case (between your legs). To shift the mechanical 4-speed, place the power reverser lever on the dash in the neutral (middle) position and shift the gear lever on top of the transmission.
I found this tractor to be amazingly strong and reliable. Sometimes I wish I still had it for the bigger jobs.
 
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#10  
I think you nailed it. Thank you!!
 

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