Wheel Motor for 425

[tlb13057]

Does anyone know the White Hydraulics part number for the Wheel Motors on a PT425 built in 2002? From the White Hydraulics website it looks like a "CE" series motor. The PT part number is P142X14.
Thanks,
-Tim

 

[KentT]

It's 400230W3122AAA per earlier reports here.

400 = normal rotation (i.e. timing)
230 = 14.2ci
W31 = 4-Hole Front Ports, 7/8" O-ring
22 = 1.25" tapered shaft
A = Dark Metallic Gray paint
AA = no options or add-ons

 

[tlb13057]

Thanks. I did a seach using "wheel motor" and "high torque wheel motor" but did not find anything yet on the newer motors. If you can suggest another keyword to use I would appreciate it.
-Tim

 

[DHS]

I sent an email from the White Hydraulics website and asked for there current designation for my tiller motor and they replied with the new designation. They said they do not have a web site that cross references the old numbers to the new models.

Dale

 

[KentT]

Thanks. I did a seach using "wheel motor" and "high torque wheel motor" but did not find anything yet on the newer motors. If you can suggest another keyword to use I would appreciate it.
-Tim

I found where I'd written it down -- I did have the White spec books with me... I was editing my earlier post when you replied, it seems...

 

[tlb13057]

Great, I also found your ealier post with the information. I am wondering about the W31 designation. Should it be W38? W31 is 7/8 O-ring and W38 is 1/2 BSP, whatever that means.

Do you know what this sells for? PT wants $487 plus shipping.

Thanks,
-Tim

 

[KentT]

Great, I also found your ealier post with the information. I am wondering about the W31 designation. Should it be W38? W31 is 7/8 O-ring and W38 is 1/2 BSP, whatever that means.

Do you know what this sells for? PT wants $487 plus shipping.

Thanks,
-Tim

I don't know first-hand what it is -- I'm just passing on the number posted here by someone else long ago. My PT has the older White RS 12.5ci motors on it...

I'm guessing you should be able to get them from a distributor for about $75 - $100 less (ballpark) than the price you mentioned...

When shopping for Eaton Char-Lynn motors to upgrade mine, the best prices (by far) that I found were from SophTech at Welcome to SophTech Worldwide

I'm not sure if they handle White motors or not...

BTW, White should be able to cross-reference that number for you. What I found out dealing with Eaton is that the real long numbers are the "parts buildup or configuration" to have a motor custom-built. Once someone orders a certain configuration, a separate smaller part number is created that equates to the longer number. I think that shorter part number is what you have, while the long one I provided is the "special order configuration."

 

[tlb13057]

OK, called a distributor and got a price quote of $301 plus shipping ($12). Problem is delivery............4 weeks because they build to order!!

Next time I'll keep a spare in the garage!
-Tim

 

[KentT]

OK, called a distributor and got a price quote of $301 plus shipping ($12). Problem is delivery............4 weeks because they build to order!!

Next time I'll keep a spare in the garage!
-Tim

Talk about a big markup!

Yep. I was quoted 4-6 weeks for Eaton S-series. Well, 6 weeks later I finally received one, and the other 3 were back-ordered an additional 3 weeks... 9 weeks total.

Consequently, I didn't get the mod done while I was there (TN, where the tractor is stored) on vacation...

 

[tlb]

Just got another quote from hydraulicsuperstore.com via email for $287.08 pluss shipping and 3 week lead time. Better, but suspect as the other dealer said all motors are built to order and the factory is quoting 4 weeks.

-Tim

 

[stray]

Guys when i broke the wheel motor out from under the front of my 422 2003 model I went to power-trac and paid 318.00 tax and all for a new one. That was what? About 2 months ago.

 

[KentT]

Guys when i broke the wheel motor out from under the front of my 422 2003 model I went to power-trac and paid 318.00 tax and all for a new one. That was what? About 2 months ago.

Stray,

I think that's the retail price differences between the White RS and White CE series motor. The CE series is a heavier-duty, compact (i.e. short and fat) motor, with a 1.25" tapered hub instead of 1", tapered roller bearings instead of thrust bearings (so it handles higher sideloads) and is also rated for about twice the PSI (rated for 3,000 PSI)...

 

[tlb13057]

Yes, I would agree. I got a price quote from a distributor also for the "RS" series motor on the older PT425s and it was $226 plus shipping with 3 day delivery.

The distributor also told me White Hydraulics increased prices at the beginning of August 2007.
-Tim

 

[KentT]

Yes, I would agree. I got a price quote from a distributor also for the "RS" series motor on the older PT425s and it was $226 plus shipping with 3 day delivery.

The distributor also told me White Hydraulics increased prices at the beginning of August 2007.
-Tim

For price comparison, I paid $358 each plus shipping for the Char-Lynn S-series that I special-ordered. They are not as heavy-duty as the White CE motors, having 1" shafts and thrust bearings, but are more powerful and efficient than the White RS that's on it. I didn't want to either fabricate or buy new wheelmotor mounting boxes and new wheel hubs to convert up to the 1.25" shafts. So, the Charl-Lynn S series was somewhat of a compromise...

Actually the Char-Lynn S series is a bit more efficient geroler, instead of geroter like the White motors, either RS or CE. For example the S series generates 5199 in lbs of torque and 74 RPM at 8gpm flow of 1500 PSI, whereas the slightly larger White CE series 22.8ci generates 4453 in lbs of torque and 76 RPM.

I'm anxious to get them installed and see what they do. An old friend is going to install them sometime in the next few weeks at his convenience, so they'll be ready for me to "test drive" on my next trip to TN...