Dealer What Makes a Great Dealer

   / What Makes a Great Dealer #41  
Well, I see your point....yours and Slim's both. Can you see mine? I was trying to draw a written picture of how generations have changed. Both you and Slim are apparently in your 50s i.e. from a younger generation than mine.... Actually you would be about the same age as my kids. So naturally you and I will see things differently.
rScotty
I was ready and willing to see your point, until you said this:

"Today, the buyers are newer and they want more interaction. They demand more interaction and immediately"

That right there, chaps my hide. How can you not know that was an insult? "Demand ... immediately". No, I think not.

I was going to let it go after my reply didn't go anywhere with you. I figured, what's the point. Either you are intentionally trying to insult us "younger folks" and have a chip on your shoulder about "young-ins", so no reason to keep stirring the pot, or you are oblivious to how your communications come across, so no real reason to beat a dead horse.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #42  
Novice buyers have different questions and needs than experienced people, regardless of the product line. A good dealer will cater to both very well with everyone happy at the end of the day.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #43  
As a first time tractor buyer, I found it difficult to get an idea of what I was actually buying. I'm not sure if this is pretty standard to not have the model or something near identical, or if this is a recent phenomenon.

I don't know if it's possible, dealers should try and get mock cabs/rops just as demo's inside the shop that people can actually sit in and feel where the controls are and get an idea how much room their is or if the layout is comfortable. I imagine the dealer who can pull that off will sell a heck of a lot more tractors than his other color competitors who only have a brochure to give customers.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #44  
As a first time tractor buyer, I found it difficult to get an idea of what I was actually buying. I'm not sure if this is pretty standard to not have the model or something near identical, or if this is a recent phenomenon.

I don't know if it's possible, dealers should try and get mock cabs/rops just as demo's inside the shop that people can actually sit in and feel where the controls are and get an idea how much room their is or if the layout is comfortable. I imagine the dealer who can pull that off will sell a heck of a lot more tractors than his other color competitors who only have a brochure to give customers.
Good grief YES dealers need to be demonstrating what they are selling you. If you bought a tractor sight-unseen having been exposed to no more than the dealer and the brochure ... Oh dear. I may be wrong but I do not think that 1 in 1000 buyers of tractors buy the thing without ever being on it, and certainly seeing it. Might be that only half or less of buyers actually test drive the tractor before buying, but buying without ever seeing more than the brochure is crazy to me. Never saw that happen but I guess it does.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #45  
Might be that only half or less of buyers actually test drive the tractor before buying, but buying without ever seeing more than the brochure is crazy to me. Never saw that happen but I guess it does.
It seems that buying sight unseen is much more common now than it was years ago. If the dealer has none on the lot and ordered ones are spoken for, it makes it hard to have demo units to drive.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #46  
Hey everyone - I've made this account pretty much just to post this question.

I've been very fortunate in that I've had the ability to fulfill a lifelong dream of mine and open a tractor dealership of my own. My goal is to create the best experience possible for customers in every aspect. Although I have a good idea of what I would like from a dealer from my own experiences, I thought I would reach out here and try to get ideas from the community-at-large.

I'm going to keep everything about this anonymous because I'm not here to advertise. I won't say anything about my location or specific brands carried but we will be stocking a line of compact/sub compact/utility tractors, along with other equipment and implements to go with them.

Quick facts about us:
  • We have a large service shop that is on-par if not larger than any dealership of any color in the area.
  • Parts availability is important, so we have invested a lot to keep them locally in-stock.
  • We have a good selection of brand new tractors, as well as older "value" pieces from the 60s/70s/80s that we offer alongside shop inspections for discounted prices (think $3,000-10,000).
  • We have a "collectors" program where people with vintage equipment can register and get aftermarket parts and service for discounted prices on any make and model.

Basically, I'm asking - What can make a dealership great in your experience/opinion? What could we do to set ourselves apart from the crowd and go above and beyond for our customers?

Thanks everyone!
Know as much or more about your product as the customer does. Years ago when tractor shopping, the Kubota salesman could not answer half of my questions about things I'd already researched.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #47  
My experience is a mirror to PTSG's. I went to every dealer in my area, including the "big guys" with the expensive colors.

The Green one spoke to me when I walked in, but didn't have any models in stock that were even close to what I wanted (cabbed 3R I believe-it's been so long now), their only one (chain store) was 200 miles away in SD, and the only option he gave me was to either order a new one from scratch (by looking at his glossy brochure-no he didn't know how long it would take to get in) or driving down to SD myself and buying and hauling up the one 200 miles away. After telling me that, he sat back down at his desk and completely ignored me and went back to his phone calls.

The Big Orange one didn't even acknowledge or speak to me when I walked in their door. Neither did the 2 employees at the parts counter. I walked back down a short hallway, passed several offices with open doors and employees sitting at desks, and not one of them spoke to or acknowledged me. After standing around inside their front lobby for at least 15 minutes straight, I figured they didn't want my money and walked out.

The small orange (Kioti) and Bobcat dealer was the same. Walked around, poking my head into different offices, standing at the parts/service counter, standing by the empty brochure wall, finally stood directly in the middle of the main lobby floor. Nothing. Not even a wave or a head nod to acknowledge that a living person had entered the building. I went back to this dealer 3 separate times, in 3 different days, and it was exactly the same treatment ( I wanted to see one of the Kioti models, they were sitting out in the yard).

The New Holland dealer said he would call me back. He did actually speak to me. He was the only other one that did when I walked in. I told him what I was looking for, he wrote it down while telling me how busy he was. He never called me back. That was 5 years ago.

The Branson dealer acknowledged me when I walked in, asked me if he could help me, listened to what I was looking for, told me he had several models on hand I should look at, grabbed a fist full of keys and walked me out to where the tractors were. We checked over each model, I asked fairly standard questions that he listened to, knew the answer to, and answered each one like it mattered to him that I got the information. We spent maybe an hour standing out there talking and comparing models, I told him which one I thought would work, he compared features vs. the work I wanted done and attachments I would likely get in the future. He tossed me the keys to the one I was leaning towards and said, "Go play", pointing to the vacant lot next to the tractor yard. I played a little bit, walked back in and told him I'd take it. Deal was done, paperwork signed, he had the tires loaded for me and delivered it (plus the attachments I bought) right to my place later on that week.

It's not rocket science. You don't even have to be a GREAT dealer. Just don't be a crappy one.

I had no brand loyalty at all. But the first dealer I walked into was The Green One. If they would have given me the same experience that my Branson dealer did, I would have a green tractor in my shop building right now, instead of the red one I have now. And The Green One I was looking for ended up being over 20K more money than the red one I took home. Same goes for any of the other dealers. If they would have just operated their business like the Branson dealer did, I would have bought their product.

I don't need to be lavished with love and attention when I walk in. But I do expect to be acknowledged and waited on. I also expect that you will have product on site that you are selling (tractors and attachments/accessories in this case). I expect that your sales staff knows enough about their products to at least answer relatively standard questions about it without having to look it up. If they don't know the answer to a more obscure question, I expect them to offer to look it up (and then actually do so). That's all I'm looking for, not exactly "high maintenance" customer here.
Sounds like a dealer we'd all love to have around!
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #48  
Well, I see your point....yours and Slim's both. Can you see mine? I was trying to draw a written picture of how generations have changed. Both you and Slim are apparently in your 50s i.e. from a younger generation than mine.... Actually you would be about the same age as my kids. So naturally you and I will see things differently.
rScotty
I hear what you are saying, I haven't seen it much myself. In my personal situation, I spent 30+ minutes perusing the lot without so much as an employee casually walking by.

In other environments I have seen young people be in too big of a hurry. Usually it is people under 30.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #49  
I was ready and willing to see your point, until you said this:

"Today, the buyers are newer and they want more interaction. They demand more interaction and immediately"

That right there, chaps my hide. How can you not know that was an insult? "Demand ... immediately". No, I think not.

I was going to let it go after my reply didn't go anywhere with you. I figured, what's the point. Either you are intentionally trying to insult us "younger folks" and have a chip on your shoulder about "young-ins", so no reason to keep stirring the pot, or you are oblivious to how your communications come across, so no real reason to beat a dead horse.

And what I see is an angry guy who looks for any tiny flame of dissent and concentrates on anything written in the hopes of fanning iinto some sort of controvery. It wouldn't have mattered what I said or what words I used. You searched until finding something to focus your anger on. I've known people like you all my life. You thrive on dissent. The way you act has nothing to do with either of our ages. It has a lot to do with philosophy & lifestyle.

I'll not take this any farther. Anyone interested can easily follow our conversation in this thread and decide for theirself.
rScotty
 
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   / What Makes a Great Dealer #50  
Hey everyone - I've made this account pretty much just to post this question.

I've been very fortunate in that I've had the ability to fulfill a lifelong dream of mine and open a tractor dealership of my own. My goal is to create the best experience possible for customers in every aspect. Although I have a good idea of what I would like from a dealer from my own experiences, I thought I would reach out here and try to get ideas from the community-at-large.

I'm going to keep everything about this anonymous because I'm not here to advertise. I won't say anything about my location or specific brands carried but we will be stocking a line of compact/sub compact/utility tractors, along with other equipment and implements to go with them.

Quick facts about us:
  • We have a large service shop that is on-par if not larger than any dealership of any color in the area.
  • Parts availability is important, so we have invested a lot to keep them locally in-stock.
  • We have a good selection of brand new tractors, as well as older "value" pieces from the 60s/70s/80s that we offer alongside shop inspections for discounted prices (think $3,000-10,000).
  • We have a "collectors" program where people with vintage equipment can register and get aftermarket parts and service for discounted prices on any make and model.

Basically, I'm asking - What can make a dealership great in your experience/opinion? What could we do to set ourselves apart from the crowd and go above and beyond for our customers?

Thanks everyone!
Golden Rule, treat people the way you want to treated when you are the customer, which is everywhere except your own dealership. Also, develop long term relationships with your customers based on trust. When they know you are interested in making money off of one sale only, but want to be that guy for the whole community and for generations, then you have something. Lastly, make you only hire and retain people with the same ethos as you. Be willing to prove it, by getting rid of anybody that doesn't fit your vision of excellence, be it friends, family or a complete stranger. Do things other dealers don't do, loan out good equipment when their equipment is in for service, go the extra mile and return the repaired equipment, sparkling clean and smelling nice. Do what everyone else is afraid to do. Make decisions on facts, not opinions or feeling. Be a good person :)
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #51  
Know as much or more about your product as the customer does. Years ago when tractor shopping, the Kubota salesman could not answer half of my questions about things I'd already researched.
That is a great point. There is nothing a whole lot more frustrating than a sales person who does not know their product and it soon becomes obvious. You instantly loose trust in that person and rightfully so.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #52  
That is a great point. There is nothing a whole lot more frustrating than a sales person who does not know their product and it soon becomes obvious. You instantly loose trust in that person and rightfully so.
Along the same line the salesperson needs to be able to convince me to buy based on the merits and cost advantage of their product and dealership, not by badmouthing the competition. I don't want to hear second and third hand stories about how bad XYZ tractors or the other dealers are, I tend to walk away without buying. It is OK to compare specs and features that may or may not be available on comparable models of other brands, i.e. FEL lift capacity or transmission options. I will decide what I need based on cost and what I have planned for using the product.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #53  
Along the same line the salesperson needs to be able to convince me to buy based on the merits and cost advantage of their product and dealership, not by badmouthing the competition.
I agree with this statement. Badmouthing happens when a sales person hasn't done their homework to understand how their product and brand is positioned in the market. A good sales person seeks to educate a person's understanding not to shape their opinion. Let the facts speak for themselves.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #54  
And what I see is an angry guy who looks for any tiny flame of dissent and concentrates on anything written in the hopes of fanning iinto some sort of controvery. It wouldn't have mattered what I said or what words I used. You searched until finding something to focus your anger on. I've known people like you all my life. You thrive on dissent. The way you act has nothing to do with either of our ages. It has a lot to do with philosophy & lifestyle.

I'll not take this any farther. Anyone interested can easily follow our conversation in this thread and decide for theirself.
rScotty
I was thinking the same thing about you.

Funny, I suppose.

I will no longer beat this dead horse or interact with you in any way.

Consider yourself blocked.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #55  
I think the most effective action you can take is to to ACKNOWLEDGE your customer ASAP. Even if you are involved with another customer or on the phone, a simple wave of your hand or a nod will suffice to acknowledge your customer. Everyone wants respect, wants to feel he (she) matters. No one enjoys being ignored.
If I were your salesman and saw a potential buyer outside kicking tires, I'd go out, introduce myself, and ask if I could help you. If you are just browsing, it makes it easy for the customer to refuse further interaction. If you really have a question or want a price, better yet. Then I'd say, "if you need more help, come in and ask for (Larry), I'll be around the showroom, or in the second office to the right, (or wherever). Or just ask the first person you see."

Every person in the building would be coached (required!) to make eye contact, greet the customer, even the parts man, the janitor or the bookkeeper and/or the OWNER.

I drive right past my small town auto parts store multiple times per month these days. I used to spend some money there, and they all knew me by name. One day I walked in and the owner was out front discussing politics or weather with a guy. I had to walk right between them. Not a sign that I was there. The owners son came scurrying up from the back, looked me right in the eye, made a hard left and picked up the phone laying on the counter. Not a sign I was even alive. Only the part time high school kid had the sense to say "Hi Larry, we are backed up a bit, be with you in a second", then went back to the guy in front of his counter.

My wife was a receptionist in a medical office. She said EVERYONE got a Hello, a Thanks for coming (or, for your business) and a Goodbye, at minimum.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #56  
I think the most effective action you can take is to to ACKNOWLEDGE your customer ASAP. Even if you are involved with another customer or on the phone, a simple wave of your hand or a nod will suffice to acknowledge your customer. Everyone wants respect, wants to feel he (she) matters. No one enjoys being ignored.
If I were your salesman and saw a potential buyer outside kicking tires, I'd go out, introduce myself, and ask if I could help you. If you are just browsing, it makes it easy for the customer to refuse further interaction. If you really have a question or want a price, better yet. Then I'd say, "if you need more help, come in and ask for (Larry), I'll be around the showroom, or in the second office to the right, (or wherever). Or just ask the first person you see."

Every person in the building would be coached (required!) to make eye contact, greet the customer, even the parts man, the janitor or the bookkeeper and/or the OWNER.

I drive right past my small town auto parts store multiple times per month these days. I used to spend some money there, and they all knew me by name. One day I walked in and the owner was out front discussing politics or weather with a guy. I had to walk right between them. Not a sign that I was there. The owners son came scurrying up from the back, looked me right in the eye, made a hard left and picked up the phone laying on the counter. Not a sign I was even alive. Only the part time high school kid had the sense to say "Hi Larry, we are backed up a bit, be with you in a second", then went back to the guy in front of his counter.

My wife was a receptionist in a medical office. She said EVERYONE got a Hello, a Thanks for coming (or, for your business) and a Goodbye, at minimum.
This is not directed at the OP but you would think all this is common sense. However, in the words of Charlie Munger, "what is common sense is actually not that common."
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #57  
We have a local grocery chain called Hy Vee. It’s a pretty good sized chain but regional to the mid west. They have a good attitude and must drill it into their employees. The workers almost always say hi, good morning, are you finding everything ok or similar greeting. I once was missing a bag of groceries when I got home, mostly meat. I went back and told them and they said go get the items you are missing. I did and they refunded the amount to my credit card. I explained to them I might have been the one who didn’t grab the bag. Didn’t matter I got a refund.

Some of the car dealerships, tractor dealerships need to take note of this type of customer service.
 
   / What Makes a Great Dealer #59  
When I had a tractor dealership, I always greeted every customer like I wanted to be treated.

.I always introduced myself and asked for their name.
.If I was with another customer, I offered them bottled Starbucks coffee or water while they waited looking at the brochures.
.All 30 tractors were under cover inside the building, nice & shiny, that's all it would hold.
.The kids had toy tractors to ride on the grass.
.All the tractors had the sale price on them, plus the implements.
.We had free delivery, whether you bought a Yanmar, Branson or Mahindra.
.We repaired only tractors that we sold, that way we had more time for our own customers
.Every buying customer had to go thru tractor safety 101, no matter who you were.
We retired the dealership in 2012

We sold 49 Mahindras alone our first year..


If you want to see a GREAT professional dealership, visit Daves Tractor in Northern Ca.
I have heard nothing but good reports about them. Plus Dave and his crew are nice folks, and they dont play games with the prices.
 
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   / What Makes a Great Dealer #60  
When I had a tractor dealership, I always greeted every customer like I wanted to be treated.

.I always introduced myself and asked for their name.
.If I was with another customer, I offered them bottled Starbucks coffee or water while they waited looking at the brochures.
.All 30 tractors were under cover inside the building, nice & shiny, that's all it would hold.
.The kids had toy tractors to ride on the grass.
.All the tractors had the sale price on them, plus the implements.
.We had free delivery, whether you bought a Yanmar, Branson or Mahindra.
.We repaired only tractors that we sold, that way we had more time for our own customers
.Every buying customer had to go thru tractor safety 101, no matter who you were.
We retired the dealership in 2012

We sold 49 Mahindras alone our first year..


If you want to see a GREAT professional dealership, visit Daves Tractor in Northern Ca.
I have heard nothing but good reports about them. Plus Dave and his crew are nice folks, and they dont play games with the prices.
Why did you decide to exit the business?
 

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