My decision to just blindly go when it's my turn, and let those folks hit me, depends on a quick multi-variate calculation in which the relative cost and mass of each vehicle is taken into consideration. Or put more simply... if I'm in my pickup truck and the other guy is driving a Porsche, you'd better believe I'm just pulling out.Nevermind that there was a car on my right that actually had the fight of way. Idiots.![]()
In Europe, there are very few STOP signs. Mostly they are YIELD. Which works great over there because they are actually taught how to drive. They also (usually) have the Yellow light come on in addition to the Red, about 2 seconds before the Green. This gives drivers a chance to put their (manual) vehicles in gear and be ready to move when it's time. Again, because they are taught how to drive, there are no Red Light Runners...People who don't stop for stop signs, at all.
We have one intersection that added blinking lights and signs on the posts that say "stop means stop" and still people drive right through that intersection, usually 2nd car.
I guess they figured if they stopped when the car in front of them stopped, they are now good to go. So 2 cars go through and accident numbers go up.
Ditto here. I'm watching the traffic anyways so already know that it's clear.The problem regularly occurs for me when I'm the second car, and the first car stops a full car length past the sign/line, damn near into the intersection. He goes... now what? I'm already stopped at the stop sign. Should I creep up a car length past the sign, stop again, just to go?
So yes, I'm often the guy going with the one ahead of me, because he didn't stop at the sign as he should have. I did!
Seems like most of those who pull out of side roads without stopping will then poke along at 10 under...People who don't stop for stop signs, at all.
We have one intersection that added blinking lights and signs on the posts that say "stop means stop" and still people drive right through that intersection, usually 2nd car.
I guess they figured if they stopped when the car in front of them stopped, they are now good to go. So 2 cars go through and accident numbers go up.
I dunno. I've heard plenty of stories about European drivers who'd make American bad drivers look like pikers.In Europe, there are very few STOP signs. Mostly they are YIELD. Which works great over there because they are actually taught how to drive. They also (usually) have the Yellow light come on in addition to the Red, about 2 seconds before the Green. This gives drivers a chance to put their (manual) vehicles in gear and be ready to move when it's time. Again, because they are taught how to drive, there are no Red Light Runners...
With all due respect, most people here are also taught to drive. It's just that once a license is given* entitlement sets in and the rules don't apply.because they are actually taught how to drive
And French and Italians drive using the horn to warn people they are there or for no apparent reasonI've spent most of my adult life traveling back and forth between USA and various European countries, and will say that any claim of "Europe does this" is bound to be wrong, as these countries are far more varied than even our own 50 states.
For example, Germany is a "rule follower" culture, as if it's baked into their DNA. When they say "you can't do this" regarding some aspect of motor vehicle regulation, and I respond "but what if I do?", it almost breaks their brains.Aside from some of their relatively new speed limits, most of them just can't even imagine intentionally breaking a traffic law.
Italy is near the far opposite end of the spectrum, with regard to adherence to driving regulations. Things like traffic lights and stop signs are "merely a suggestion", in that country.
Likewise with regard to permit and training requirements, they are not uniform across the continent. So, which culture is "Europe"?
My parents neighbor was from Italy.I've spent most of my adult life traveling back and forth between USA and various European countries, and will say that any claim of "Europe does this" is bound to be wrong, as these countries are far more varied than even our own 50 states.
For example, Germany is a "rule follower" culture, as if it's baked into their DNA. When they say "you can't do this" regarding some aspect of motor vehicle regulation, and I respond "but what if I do?", it almost breaks their brains.Aside from some of their relatively new speed limits, most of them just can't even imagine intentionally breaking a traffic law.
Italy is near the far opposite end of the spectrum, with regard to adherence to driving regulations. Things like traffic lights and stop signs are "merely a suggestion", in that country.
Likewise with regard to permit and training requirements, they are not uniform across the continent. So, which culture is "Europe"?
