what does your electricity cost?

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Latest bill from Philadelphia Electric (PECO) jumped significantly due to their elimination Jan 1 of the 40% discount for winter heating
in all electric homes. My consumption was down a third from last year, and it said the average daily temp was the same, 40 degrees, but the bill
was way higher.

My bill says I'm paying a rate, the number "to compare" of .0869 per kw of power.
How does that compare to what you are paying?

Boy am I glad I redid the windows, insulation and siding a couple years ago. Brought my consumption down significantly, but sadly apparently my
bill will do nothing but go up.
 
/ what does your electricity cost? #2  
Time for a pellet stove or some other form of heat. Did it here in 1996 with out all electric home and never looked back...started with a wood burner, then pellets....5 ton s of pellets, 1200.00, heating October-April.
 
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Here in Mn im paying about the same as you, .08 per kw hr. I still get the of off peak discount at 40%. Heat with propane. Electric at .08 is the same as $2.32 gal. propane. 40% off $2.32 is $1.39. I paid $1.62 gal on my last propane fill-up so off-peak electric heat is still a bargain here.
 
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Here in Mn im paying about the same as you, .08 per kw hr. I still get the of off peak discount at 40%. Heat with propane. Electric at .08 is the same as $2.32 gal. propane. 40% off $2.32 is $1.39. I paid $1.62 gal on my last propane fill-up so off-peak electric heat is still a bargain here.

good to know, thanks. I would LOVE to put in a fireplace insert and heat with wood; I have an unlimited supply but my wife still likes the open hearth. Nice while it goes, and then it sucks all the heat out of your downstairs during the night, though I shut the glass doors as tight as I can.

I put in a high efficiency Trane heat pump several years ago, and since we use the unit a lot, it really paid off on our bill. Then I stopped using an electric heater in my office and instead put a fan down at the end of the hallway to blow warmer air around, and accomplished the same thing without 13 amps running. It all adds up.

Well, I normally set the heat at 68, but now it's at 67 while it's 12 degrees out. Silly pump just runs and runs. But when it's all done, it will still be cheaper than oil. I have propane tanks for my backup gen, probably should have put in gas backup instead of electric grids, but with global warming....hmmmm.

My cost of electric normally runs around 200 per month. When it starts climbing into the upper threes, I am motivated to start moving the thermostat a little to help out. I have bad arthritis so like many older folk, I need the heat, but an LL Bean
chamois shirt is a good solution.
 
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We pay 10 to 11 cents per KWH but that includes all fees and taxes. I have tracked our power usage and bills since we built our house. I calculate the KWH costs with the total KWH used during the billing period and what I paid to the power company. The KWH cost would be a bit lower but the power costs is what I have to pay the power company which includes taxes and fees.

I hear people in my area complaining about the cost of power going up but has not increased. Their USAGE may have increased but the cost per KWH has not.

Later,
Dan
 
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Here in NE PA we have PPL as the utility. I pay $ 0.11/kwh fully loaded (with all fees, taxes, etc). You really should compare the fully loaded costs to see what your final costs are.

I had in the past a plan that was $ 0.299/kwh but there was a demand charge during on-peak. They gave you 2 KW free and it was about $8/KW during on-peak, but no demand charge at night. They promoted thermal storage (heat up at night, use all day) systems. About 3 yerars ago they fully deregulated and now it is just straight as used costs. I put in geo-thermal heat pumps 5 years ago and 9.2 KW of solar 18 months ago. My monthly average is now $ 40/mo for all electric, 3000 sq-ft with 4 adults in the house.

paul
 
/ what does your electricity cost? #7  
On a co-op here in Virginia I pay between 10 and 11 cents at the moment - dividing the total bill by the kwh consumption. That includes base rate, regular rate, fuel factor, riders, taxes, etc. My winter usage is about 2000 to 2200 a month. Rest of the year is about 1500 to 1800. I think that is pretty good since I have a 3100 sq ft ranch with an excess of windows - and electric heat (geothermal HP). Average for all Virginia residents (w and w/o electric heat, etc.) is 1200 kwh. Our rates have barely changed in over 10 years, so I won't complain. I do remember the 1960s, however, and having electric rates so cheap (1 cent per KWH) that we used highly inefficient electric ceiling radiant heat (terrible idea for heating) in one bedroom to dry our clothes on racks - to avoid laundromat fees. But that was also a time of cheap oil, cheap gas and cheap coal.

Interesting to look at the US EIA figures on average electric consumption by state around the nation. The more southern states have higher average kwh use because more electric heat is used there - due to the lower demand for heat. Northerners tend to rely on other heat sources. Of course southerners use more electricity for air conditioning as well.
 
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December bill in Northern IL it is 11.83 cents/KW. This includes all taxes, distribution fees, etc.
 
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We are at .11/kwh. Only propane where I am, so I am planning to put in a woodstove in. I have lots of wood!!!
 
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National Greed likes to mix and max to try to hide their fees, this is what my bill looks like.

RATE Electric SC1 Non Heat

Basic Service (not including usage) $16.21
Delivery 0.05263 x 957 kWh $50.38
Incr State Assessment 0.00307 x 957 kWh $2.94
SBC/RPS 0.006249 x 957 kWh $5.98
Legacy Transition Chrg -0.001752 x 957 kWh -$1.68
RDM -0.00291935 x 957 kWh -$2.79
Transmission Rev Adj 0.00068 x 957 kWh $0.65
Tariff Surcharge 2.04082 % $1.46
Total Delivery Services $ 73.15

Supply Services
SUPPLIER National Grid

Electricity Supply 0.07333 x 957 kWh $70.18
Merchant Function 0.00262858 x 957 kWh $2.52
ESRM 0.006171 x 957 kWh $5.90
Total Supply Services $ 78.60

So, in the end it comes out to $151.75 for 957kWh.

So, works out to approx $0.1585 per kWh.
 
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Before putting in solar panels last year, I looked into this. There are websites that list the cost across the country. I believe that $.11/kwh was average for the country but it varied alot. I wanted to run the numbers myself on the benefit of going solar and not counting on a salesman's numbers. In NY, solar panels are a steal, at least last year they were.
 
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Where did you end up getting your panels from? Online or local? Any good sites you found for research? I'd love to tell National Greed to take a hike.
 
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Well you guys all have a great rate!

Here in NH on PSNH (Public Service NH) we are paying $.18 per KWH total taxes services and fees, and our average daily KW is 22KWH or 650 KWH per month. So our bills are $115 average a month.

The electricity cost and the delivery costs are pretty close to 50/50. We could go with another electricity supplier and save .015 per KWH or maybe $9 a month.
 
/ what does your electricity cost? #14  
$0.10 per KWH including taxes and fees. All of our plants are coal fired and produce energy more affordably than any other method as long as the current administration keeps their greedy mitts off of it. Matter of fact, our electricity was so UNFAIRLY affordable that the Entergy customers in MS and LA had surcharges placed on AR utility bills to compensate for their more expensively produced electricity. It shows up on my bill as FERC (Federal Energy Regulatory Commission) imposed fees. My costs increased almost $0.02 per KWH when they pulled this. You're welcome LA and MS. :rolleyes: They complained that electricity provided by the same company in a neighboring state was cheaper, not even taking into account the production costs may be different.
 
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The rate from our coop on this month's bill was 11.6 cents calculated by dividing the whole bill by the number of kWh used...not great, but since we're a coop, we do get a little back each year in the form of Capital Credits. The interesting part is that the actual energy charges per kWh are .05474 per kWh, and the rest is delivery, cost adjustments, taxes, etc. They're definitely making the money this week, with the cold and snow here.
 
/ what does your electricity cost? #16  
Our "rate to compare" is $.0587 per KWH. In 2012, our actual net rate (all fees, etc.) has ranged from $.1282 in July, to $.0597 in December.
 
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I suppose all the electric companies do something similar to my billing from TXU Energy in Texas. It shows a "base charge" of $4.95 (I have no idea what that means), then an "energy charge" (kWh x $.067), then a "delivery charge" and a "gross receipts reimb" and finally "sales tax".

But I only consider the total bill divided by kilowatt hours, and that does vary a little month to month. However, the total annual average for 2013 was $0.113082 per kWh. The first bill of 2013 that I just paid was $0.1084299 per kWh.

I am supposedly on a 12 month contract at $0.104 per kWh, but that doesn't include taxes, and maybe some other charges.:laughing:
 
/ what does your electricity cost? #18  
Latest bill from Philadelphia Electric (PECO) jumped significantly due to their elimination Jan 1 of the 40% discount for winter heating
in all electric homes. My consumption was down a third from last year, and it said the average daily temp was the same, 40 degrees, but the bill
was way higher.

My bill says I'm paying a rate, the number "to compare" of .0869 per kw of power.
How does that compare to what you are paying?

Boy am I glad I redid the windows, insulation and siding a couple years ago. Brought my consumption down significantly, but sadly apparently my
bill will do nothing but go up.
Thinking of moving to that area. What type of heat? Heat pump? What is your average monthly bill?

OOOOppps. Never mind, I see you already answered it.
 
/ what does your electricity cost? #19  
Here in the Sunbelt, the smart thing to do is go solar and never look back.
We have a 10.3 system with a mix of older (3 year old) 30 BP panels with 18 newer panel (this spring) with built in inverters.
It has eliminated our electric bill, well we still get one but they owe us.
This is on a 3000 sq ft home. Well insulated plus double pane windows.
TXU settles up monthly now for what we put back in the grid at .750 per kWh.
TXU charges .1290 per kWh plus the extra charges.

With our two CNG powered vehicles, a 2011 Honda. A 2004 F150 crew. I feel like telling big oil & OPEC where to stick it.
 
/ what does your electricity cost? #20  
You can expect high rates in the NE, where they outlaw natural gas drilling. In the midwest, where there is an energy boom, rates are down. Here we pay around $.10 calculated total bill / usage.
 

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