what do you do for fuel storage?

/ what do you do for fuel storage? #121  
I have a 300 gallon gravity tank in my barn. Actually have it mounted in the loft with plenty of hose to reach the tractor. I get 200 gallons, the min my guy will deliver, at a time. Treat it with a Bio-product and Howse Fuel Treatment and no issues in 8 years.

Chris
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #122  
Will a 12v gas fuel pump work with diesel fuel? If it will I will use it with a 15 gal drum.
Thanks

I think there are some cheaper ones that are diesel only but yes a gas rated should be diesel rated too. The electric one that came with a tank states both fuels are approved.

Here is one NOT gas approved.

Diesel Transfer Pump - 12 Volt
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #123  
Have a 275 gallon oil barrel with hand pump , and a 55 gallon with 12 volt pump on a small pallet. Small tank easy to load with FEL onto trailer or bed of truck. Local oil company that I deal with will deliver 100 gallons at a time , and if I pay cash , in a day or two cuts 0.05 cents off , almost the tax. I like to fill house oil barrel at same time when money isn't so tight getting 500 gallons or more also lowers the price a few cents. Either way buying a tank or getting one for free just to moving it, "when people change heating systems " is a good deal to . Just clean it out good and use a filter. I got lucky 2 years ago , got a 275 with about 220 gallons of fuel , FREE , just had to move it.
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #124  
Locally I see nice used tanks with pumps going for about the price of a new pump or less. Recently there was nice 2008 dated 100 gallon tank to haul in a PU, electric gas/diesel rated pump with filter for $200.

There is also some over priced old tanks that would cost alot to get well flushed. :(

If one is going to be on the road going to pick up fuel or haul to job site it needs to have the label stating it is DOT approved for private use in case you get stopped or have a leak/spill in a public place.
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #125  
fwiw
I work for a wholesale distributor & we sell all kinds of oil tanks. We also get dented rusted units on occasion that we 'clearance' sell. Typically we will sell a 275 or 330 gallon tank for $125 if its dented or severely rusted. As long as the dent isn't on a weld joint I wouldn't be afraid to try & use one. The rust issue is easily remidied with rust combiner paint.
You don't have to fill them if you only use 100 gallons or so a year. . .

Might be worth checking with your nearby heating distributor (if you are in an area where oil heat is commonly used).
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #126  
fwiw
I work for a wholesale distributor & we sell all kinds of oil tanks. We also get dented rusted units on occasion that we 'clearance' sell. Typically we will sell a 275 or 330 gallon tank for $125 if its dented or severely rusted. As long as the dent isn't on a weld joint I wouldn't be afraid to try & use one. The rust issue is easily remidied with rust combiner paint.
You don't have to fill them if you only use 100 gallons or so a year. . .

Might be worth checking with your nearby heating distributor (if you are in an area where oil heat is commonly used).

Oil tanks typically are good on the inside but gas tanks that have set empty or near empty can form a lot of rust we have learned.
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #127  
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #128  
I just had a 100 gal steel tank made and put a 13 gpm fill rite 12 volt pump on top attached to a deep cycle battery. Using solar charger to keep battery topped up. Works well. Had fork slots and lift eyes put on the tank so i can run it down to a local station to fill. Anyone know where I can buy red diesel in northern california, specifically near Santa Cruz?
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #129  
Call the local Co-op and see where the farmers or construction outfits get their diesel. Or call the home heating oil comapny listed in your yellow pages.
Our heating oil company would deliver for 75+gl but unfortunatly I can only store 40+gl.
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #130  
Don't know if Redwood Oil goes that far south...

I use them in the Bay Area... the price is comparable to buying at the pump with the convenience of home delivery.

I can only buy about 100 gallons at a time... can't let the tank get less than 4 hours emergency generator run time and the city limits how much I can have on hand.

Buying 100 to 120 gallons puts me at a disadvantage because there is a surcharge.
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #131  
I have (4) 5 gallon jugs that I rotate and try to keep all filled and stabilized so I don't have to make any emergency runs to town.
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #132  
I have A 55 gallon set up.
I never have to haul it anywhere to fill it as it is self filling.

Can you explain what you mean when you say your tank is self-filling? If that means what it sounds like it means I think you would be very popular with your friends.
 
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/ what do you do for fuel storage? #133  
In my area there are a lot of folks filling transfer type containers and I have never heard of or seen any station operator ever look at or comment on containers. I have even seen guys and gals filling glass gallon jugs. The law is very clear though that all such containers have to be approved. I doubt even patrolling police bother unless it is obvious that the container is not secured or stopping for some other moving violation. I was involved in an incident several years ago; a guy had two old rusty 55 gal drums in the back of his pickup, not secured, and he was just completing filling them when I drove up to an adjacent pump. I asked the station attendendant why he was allowed to do this as 55 Gal drums are not an approved transfer container in WA unless sold and transported by a licensed dealer. His statement to me was why don't you mind your own business, I want that big 100 GL sale and I do not care as I am not the gas police. I watched the guy pull away with a jerk and both drums slammed into the tailgate and almost popped the latch and bent it up badly. I jotted down his licensce # and called the fire marshalls office. They confirmed what the guy was doing was driving a huge bomb around. They investigated, fined the guy, confiscated the drums and gas. They called me back and thanked me as they saw that if he slammed the drums back one more time they would have been rolling down the street.

Moral: No matter what you use, secure it when moving.

A steel or plastic drum in the back of a pickup is SOP around here to get fuel for fishing boats. Walk the drum off the truck, roll it to the end of the wharf, screw in a valve and hose, lie it back down, put the hose end in the boat fuel tank, open the valve and let gravity do the rest. Bigger boats can go a week or more on a tank so they can get a home heating truck to deliver their fuel straight to the boat, but many boats don't have a big enough tank so they need to fill it every day or two. You won't get a truck to deliver that often.

I'd have quite the cell phone bill if I called somebody every time I saw a truck rolling along with a barrel of diesel in the back. Most people will have the sense to tie them in place with a piece of rope though.
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #134  
About 12 years ago I needed a fuel tender for my small single engine airplane as I was burning auto gas in it which they didn't keep at the airport. A friend gave me a 100 gallon aluminum diesel tank off of a semi tractor. I went to Payless Cashways (local lumber yard at the time) and bought a small single axle trailer kit for $99.00. Another friend tig welded a small sump in the bottom the tank with a drain valve and some 4X4 aluminum square tubing runners so I could mount the tank to the trailer. He also welded in a 2" bung hole in the top of the tank for the electric pump. I bought a 12V fil-rite pump and gallon meter for the rig. I mounted a battery box on the trailer tongue. I put a water filter and a particulate filter in line at the discharge side of the meter.

I used this rig for my plane for about 5 or 6 years until I overhauled the engine on the plane, upped the compression and had to switch back to 100LL AV gas. So the fuel tender has been relegated to hauling diesel for my tractor and skid loader. It works very well as long as you don't hook up the battery leads backwards. Don't ask how I know this.

all the best,

Tim
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #135  
A project like yours deserves a couple of pictures... ;-)

About 12 years ago I needed a fuel tender for my small single engine airplane as I was burning auto gas in it which they didn't keep at the airport. A friend gave me a 100 gallon aluminum diesel tank off of a semi tractor. I went to Payless Cashways (local lumber yard at the time) and bought a small single axle trailer kit for $99.00. Another friend tig welded a small sump in the bottom the tank with a drain valve and some 4X4 aluminum square tubing runners so I could mount the tank to the trailer. He also welded in a 2" bung hole in the top of the tank for the electric pump. I bought a 12V fil-rite pump and gallon meter for the rig. I mounted a battery box on the trailer tongue. I put a water filter and a particulate filter in line at the discharge side of the meter.

I used this rig for my plane for about 5 or 6 years until I overhauled the engine on the plane, upped the compression and had to switch back to 100LL AV gas. So the fuel tender has been relegated to hauling diesel for my tractor and skid loader. It works very well as long as you don't hook up the battery leads backwards. Don't ask how I know this.

all the best,

Tim
 
/ what do you do for fuel storage? #138  
Sorry guys, I finally got the field today and got some pictures. This is the first time I have tried to upload pictures and I am not having much luck. It seems that the pictures display upside down, How come?

Tim
 

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/ what do you do for fuel storage? #139  
Must be aerobatic fuel tank. There is one possibility. Some picture browsers don't alter pictures. They just attach a "recipe" to them. The recipe contains all editing that was done to the picture while leaving the original unchanged. So if the original was taken up side down you see it rotated in picture browser but when posted it comes as original.
 
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