What do you call this

[gemini5362]

The bar of steel that fits between the arms on your three point hitch it has holes all accross that bar. I have always heard them called draw bars but technically I believe the draw bar is the bar that goes underneath the frame and comes out and you hook chains, trailers etc to it. what is the other bar called ?

 

[BTDT]

3 Point Hitch Accessories

Is this what your talking about? Scroll down and click on cross drawbar 1 7/8"

 

[Bird]

The bar of steel that fits between the arms on your three point hitch it has holes all accross that bar.

Yep, that's a DRAWBAR.

technically I believe the draw bar is the bar that goes underneath the frame and comes out and you hook chains, trailers etc to it.

And that one's called a SWINGING DRAWBAR.

Confusin', ain't it? Having two drawbars. But that's the way it is. The "swinging drawbar" can be swung to one side or the other and pinned place on some, but not all, tractors.

 

[JerryG]

We always called the bar under the tractor the drawbar or belly drawbar. The one that goes goes between the lift arms we always called an 11 hole drawbar. Most of the books that I have seen just call them both drawbars. There are fewer and fewer tractor that actually have a swing drawbar each year. Most of them are stationary without the option of right or left movement.

 

[1bush2hog]

We always called the bar under the tractor the drawbar or belly drawbar. The one that goes goes between the lift arms we always called an 11 hole drawbar. Most of the books that I have seen just call them both drawbars. There are fewer and fewer tractor that actually have a swing drawbar each year. Most of them are stationary without the option of right or left movement.[/QUOTE


Jerry - Can you tell me what the swinging drawbar would be used for when it is positioned at an angle other than perpendicular to the tractor? I know this is probably a dumb question, but would appreciate knowing.

 

[ovrszd]

We always called the bar under the tractor the drawbar or belly drawbar. The one that goes goes between the lift arms we always called an 11 hole drawbar. Most of the books that I have seen just call them both drawbars. There are fewer and fewer tractor that actually have a swing drawbar each year. Most of them are stationary without the option of right or left movement.[/QUOTE


Jerry - Can you tell me what the swinging drawbar would be used for when it is positioned at an angle other than perpendicular to the tractor? I know this is probably a dumb question, but would appreciate knowing.

That function was used for a multitude of things back years ago. We used it to better position our hay baler, pull type corn picker, sileage wagon, pull type plow, etc.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

That function was used for a multitude of things back years ago. We used it to better position our hay baler, pull type corn picker, sileage wagon, pull type plow, etc.

Another reason for being able to shift the drawbar to one side is to clear the front coulter on a mounted plow.

Those 3-point drawbars come in 7-hole, 9-hole, and 11-hole versions. I've still got the original 9-holer that came new with my MF150.

 

[schmism]

Another reason for being able to shift the drawbar to one side is to clear the front coulter on a mounted plow.

i had to do extactly that when i hooked up my plow 2 bottom plow for the first time... it was hitting the belly draw bar, then i noticed, hey if i pull these pins it would shift to the side and would clear

 

[dsgsr]

Folks, That BAR that has all the holes in it that hooks between the lower draft arms IS called a TOOL BAR. The draw bar is the thing that you connect in the center of the tractor low under the rear end that you can use as a toe bar, Too make it a swinging draw bar you remove the pins to either side of where the draw bar connects, NOT all tractors have this option. Wish I had a mechanical drawing program to illustrate it.


David

 

[Egon]

Drawbar, swinging

This may show a swinging drawbar.

 

[gemini5362]

Folks, That BAR that has all the holes in it that hooks between the lower draft arms IS called a TOOL BAR. The draw bar is the thing that you connect in the center of the tractor low under the rear end that you can use as a toe bar, Too make it a swinging draw bar you remove the pins to either side of where the draw bar connects, NOT all tractors have this option. Wish I had a mechanical drawing program to illustrate it.


David

A friend of mine started my inquiry by asking what that bar is called. Evidently from the posts I see here they are both called drawbars in various catologues or online sales where you would purchase them. I believe the swinging drawbar is definetly limited to the one that goes under the tractor for towing items.

It is interesting to note the differnet names that both are called though. I did notice one poster mention that swinging drawbars were more prevalent on older tractors.
My old MF - 65 did not have a swinging draw bar. My 2005 montana 4940C has one.

 

[dsgsr]

Drawbar, swinging

This may show a swinging drawbar.

Thanks Egon, that's the perfect illustration.

David

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Folks, That BAR that has all the holes in it that hooks between the lower draft arms IS called a TOOL BAR.


David

NOPE! A Tool bar is a totally different animal. What we're talking about in this thread is a DRAWBAR. A toolbar does (usually) mount on a 3-point hitch, but it serves a completely different purpose. They generally come in 2 sizes. (2-1/2" X 2-1/2" or 4" x 4") They're used to mount row units for cultivators, bedders, planters, ect. They allow row units to be positioned at various spacings dependent on desired row width.

The first 3-point drawbars were the brainchild of the man who invented the 3-point hitch, Harry Ferguson. Early Fords and Ferguson tractors had no drawbar mounted under the tractor to encourage the use of the 3-point hitch. The 3-point drawbar was available to allow drawn equipment to be hitched to the 3-point draft arms instead of the non-existant swinging drawbar on those tractors.

Here's the only picture I have available that shows a TOOLBAR. It's the 4" X 4" piece across the front of this planter that the 2 row units are hung from.

 

[Bird]

I did notice one poster mention that swinging drawbars were more prevalent on older tractors.

Perhaps he should have said "bigger" instead of "older"? Of course, I don't know for sure that's actually the case either, but in my own personal experience, that seems to be the case. Neither of my B series Kubotas had the ability to swing the drawbar to the side, but the old Oliver I used for cutting and baling hay did.

And Farmwithjunk has defined the "tool bar" as I know it. My Kubota dealer used to sell a small implement assortment; a single tool bar, onto which you could bolt a single bottom turning plow (moldboard), or two small middle busters (to make a bedder), or cultivator plows.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Perhaps he should have said "bigger" instead of "older"? Of course, I don't know for sure that's actually the case either, but in my own personal experience, that seems to be the case. Neither of my B series Kubotas had the ability to swing the drawbar to the side, but the old Oliver I used for cutting and baling hay did.

And Farmwithjunk has defined the "tool bar" as I know it. My Kubota dealer used to sell a small implement assortment; a single tool bar, onto which you could bolt a single bottom turning plow (moldboard), or two small middle busters (to make a bedder), or cultivator plows.

Actually, what we're now referring to as a "swinging drawbar" is listed in several of my Ferguson and Massey Ferguson parts books as a "fixed drawbar". Until just recently I'd never heard them called anything other than just simply a "drawbar".

 

[Bird]

The "fixed drawbar" term would seem to be more logical, but then some aren't "fixed". Tractor Supply Company used to have a website that I liked. I can't find anything on their current website. And I don't even know whether they still publish their "Blue Book" but they used to have, both in the Blue Book catalog and on their website, a drawing showing all the parts of the 3-point hitch, both drawbars, and the normal dimensions of the category I, II, and III hitches and hitch pins.

 

[AKfish]

That sure was a purty planter! Never knew that the mounting frame for the coulters and seed boxes, etc. was called a "toolbar".

That tractor was a biggin' too! Mine has a couple of adjustment holes to offset the drawbar --- but it don't look anything like that 8000 series!

Used to offset the drawbar to run the baler. Tryin' to remember if we had to rake with it set to one side too....?