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This mid 50's MF 98 turbo w/blower getting ready for some pulling action. /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif
 
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Harv Cleveland of VT needed more rear weight for better traction,but still wasn't in the 12.000lbs open class /w3tcompact/icons/sad.gifCase 570 Super found the hard pack ground and never look back. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
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I believe they came thru w/GM power plant.
 
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Here is a question to test your tractor/engine knowledge: "Why is a two-stroke diesel; such as the one shown; kind of a disadvantage when used in a farmin' tractor?" You may consult references and buddies when preparing your answer. Another way of putting the question might also be: "What is the CHIEF disadvantage of the two-stoke cycle diesel engine in a farm tractor?"........Dave
 
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Dave..you have given me a very interesting question..I like that /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif and I been racking pee brain for answer but still coming w/fat <font color=red>0<font color=red><font color=black> /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

After all these years of tinking on those quite gaints I never give it much thought..I would have to say lack of power on the high end.

I'll shall be /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif forward to the answer. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
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A FOUR-STROKE CYCLE diesel by virtue of it's principle of operation uses an average of something like twenty-six times as much air as a four stroke cycle gasoline engine does. That is quite a challenge for an air cleaner in dusty conditions. When you have a TWO-STROKE CYCLE diesel engine, the air volume consumed is almost double what a four stroke diesel uses. The air cleaners on those Jimmy diesel-powered tractorsd have to really be perfect, both in size and in effectivness, or the engine will be eaten alive by dirt real quick.*******Now....what are the ADVANTAGES of Two-Stroke diesel engines when used on a constant speed governed load like a generator for example. Jimmys are STELLAR on generator service....why?......Dave
 
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It might be red and the sheet metal is ferguson and the name says Massey Ferguson but what you have is an Oliver 990 with a GM engine. The 98 was made by Oliver and sold to Massey Ferguson, MF added their sheet metal and painted them red and silver.When that brute starts the ground shakes.
 
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<font color=red>Now....what are the ADVANTAGES of Two-Stroke diesel engines when used on a constant speed governed load like a generator for example</font color=red>

I don’t know the answer to that, but this seems to hold true. The two stroke diesel is used on a lot of locomotives, and marine applications. Bolth places where you need a constant speed.
 
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Because the two-stroke diesels fire each time the piston reaches TDC, there are more power strokes per revolution. When you are folowing a sharply-changing load like a generator supplying a building where the elevators start abruptly for example, the Jimmy has it's cylinders firing at a much greater frequency, and therefore has a better chance to "pounce" on the load and maintain RPM since in a V8 Detroit for instance, you have a power stroke every 45 degrees of crankshaft rotation. Jimmys are QUICK on the trigger! I do a lot of generator testing and the big twelve and sixteen-cylinder Jimmys are superb generator engines. Messy, yes; noisy, yes; not really fuel efficient, yes; but if I am on the operating table of a big medical center, I would definitely want Detroit Diesels down in the standby generator room.
 
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Interesting about the Detroit Diesel you have posted..what about the Cumming Diesel,for are they as good in colder weather as I heard truck drivers say?
 
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I have absolutely no idea since I'm a California native. What IS cold weather? Heh heh heh.... A buddy almost froze going across Nevada hauling cows when the fuel filters on the truck froze. They had taken on some watery diesel fuel at their last stop. They had to pop flares to thaw the filters so they could dump them out. ..... Dave
 
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Need some help. Over the weekend, my neighbor bought a M or MF 35, gas powered Massey. We need some parts. First, can you buy weights for the front axles. We are going to fill the front tires, but the front ends lifts off the ground pretty easily, so we want to put more weight on it. We're pulling a 7 foot woods finish deck.

Where's the best site for parts. We need some front tie rod ends.

Expect to be talking to you experts quite a bit over the next year. Thanks for your help!!

nhman
 
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Front weights are very reasonable picked up at a local auction..., but ~~ $1. /lb. factory...

Other ideas would be mounted barbell weights or make a front box and fill with concrete...

Who's 7' finish mower are you using?

In the meantime, I'd stay away from hills/slopes until you get the front end under control...
 
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John Miller give a good idea for you needs.

You should beable to purchase weights from your MF dealer,and if he can't get you the weight frame your local welding shop should beable to make one.

Far as parts go..you shouldn't have a problem locating a website,or skip over to Yesterday Tractor website and poke around little.

Good luck and keep the front end down.
 
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NH Man.....those MF 35's were common in the fruit and nut orchards in CA when I was a young man. They almost always had wheel weights IN FRONT. Those four holes in the front wheels are for bolting the weights in. Interestingly.....the MF 35 was EXTREMELY thrifty on fuel. That Perkins Diesel was hard to beat. A VERY popular tractor on the west coast.
 

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