Upgrading tractor for dragging horseback riding arenas

[m1garand762]

Think of the ranges of the hydrostat as follows
L loader
M mower
H highway

 

[NoTrespassing]

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[jeff9366]

I plan to go as big as a can while staying in the compact/small utility size frame so I can still get in and out of my indoor riding areans.

The L6060 engine is turbocharged. You will have to consider carbon monoxide accumulation as your tractor operates indoors. Carbon monoxide is odorless and tasteless.

Determine the height of a cabbed L6060, to be sure it will pass through your arena entry door.

 

[4570Man]

The L6060 engine is turbocharged. You will have to consider carbon monoxide accumulation as your tractor operates indoors. Carbon monoxide is odorless and tasteless.

Determine the height of a cabbed L6060, to be sure it will pass through your arena entry door.

What difference does a turbo make for carbon monoxide?

 

[Jchonline]

I am in the market to upgrade my tractor. The primary function will be to drag the 3 riding arenas at our boarding stable. What I THINK i need is based on the shortcomings of what I already have. I own a 35 HP hydrostatic which I purchased and a 40hp gear tractor which I inheritted. Pulling the same 6.5' TR3 drag, the hydrostatic cant even think about high range, sometimes struggles in mid rang depending on how much dirt/sand it engages with, and low range is just so slow I could shoot myself. The gear tractor pulls it just fine. So in my head, gear tractor > hydro

Another complication is who might operate it. I have 2 employees, a wife, and 2 small children who may operate it in the future. My wife and employees cant drive a golf cart around the property without crashing, so there is no way I will ever let them operate a gear tractor. If I get a gear machine, I will be the sole operator for many years to come, and I will need to keep the hydro tractor for them to use. If I go with a hydro tractor, i may let other operate it after to new toy excitement wears off, and I can sell the hydro tractor to recoup some of the investment. So in my head, hydro > gear

When I first bought my farm, an older friend told me when purchasing a tractor, go bigger than you think you need, and get the cab.....I didnt listen. I dont intend to make that mistake again. I plan to go as big as a can while staying in the compact/small utility size frame so I can still get in and out of my indoor riding areans. Hydro tractors seem to top out around 60hp. Frustratingly, dealers seem only to be capable of pushing whatever they have in stock on you as opposed to providing confident answers on what exactly would be best for my purposes.

So my main question is, will I be disappointed in the dragging power/speed of a 50-60hp hydrostatic like I am the 35?

What is the best tire for sand, snow, turf?

I think I only have New Holland, Kubota, Massey and Deere on Long Island, so I'm open to specific recommendations from those makes.

I dont see the issue. Just let your 2 employees and family use te 35HP in LOW so they dont run into anything or crash it....win win. You can sit inside and drink beer.

 

[Jchonline]

Ok a few serious thoughts.

1. Are you at least at full PTO RPM when running in medium?
2. Gear is always going to beat HST for power to the ground. For field work, give me gear everytime. For everything else, HST. Remember on HST, less pedal pressure = higher torque.
3. For ground engagement, weight makes a huge difference. You might even be able to get a 35 HP machine that weights 1500lbs more and it will drag just fine. A For example, Kubota L2501 will do alot more work than a B2601 .

With your current machine does the engine bog down, or do the wheels spin?

 

[aesanders]

Do yourself a favor and check out a Massey 2860M. Don’t test the power shuttle version, or you will buy it and have to keep the current hydro. The hydro version is pretty sweet also, but love that power shuttle.

 

[Texasmark]

I am in the market to upgrade my tractor. The primary function will be to drag the 3 riding arenas at our boarding stable. What I THINK i need is based on the shortcomings of what I already have. I own a 35 HP hydrostatic which I purchased and a 40hp gear tractor which I inheritted. Pulling the same 6.5' TR3 drag, the hydrostatic cant even think about high range, sometimes struggles in mid rang depending on how much dirt/sand it engages with, and low range is just so slow I could shoot myself. The gear tractor pulls it just fine. So in my head, gear tractor > hydro

Another complication is who might operate it. I have 2 employees, a wife, and 2 small children who may operate it in the future. My wife and employees cant drive a golf cart around the property without crashing, so there is no way I will ever let them operate a gear tractor. If I get a gear machine, I will be the sole operator for many years to come, and I will need to keep the hydro tractor for them to use. If I go with a hydro tractor, i may let other operate it after to new toy excitement wears off, and I can sell the hydro tractor to recoup some of the investment. So in my head, hydro > gear

When I first bought my farm, an older friend told me when purchasing a tractor, go bigger than you think you need, and get the cab.....I didnt listen. I dont intend to make that mistake again. I plan to go as big as a can while staying in the compact/small utility size frame so I can still get in and out of my indoor riding areans. Hydro tractors seem to top out around 60hp. Frustratingly, dealers seem only to be capable of pushing whatever they have in stock on you as opposed to providing confident answers on what exactly would be best for my purposes.

So my main question is, will I be disappointed in the dragging power/speed of a 50-60hp hydrostatic like I am the 35?

What is the best tire for sand, snow, turf?

I think I only have New Holland, Kubota, Massey and Deere on Long Island, so I'm open to specific recommendations from those makes.

An 8n would do the job if that's the only consideration. On tires check out dune buggies. Some are totally slick with one cross bar and the reason is that on a dune you can easily sink before you move forward....with lots of lugs.

I do a neighbor's arena with a little 25 hp 4wd LS with industrials....implement is a home made, 3 pt 8' arena drag consisting of several horizontal pipes with about 40 (8/pipe) staggered 6"x1/2" steel rods angled about 30* welded in place.

 

[5030]

Back when we had a stable and I worked 3 rings, all I used was a Fuerst Tine Harrow pull rake. Heck, you can pull it with a quad. I still use it to set my alfalfa seed in with.

 

[IH2424]

I am in the market to upgrade my tractor. The primary function will be to drag the 3 riding arenas at our boarding stable. What I THINK i need is based on the shortcomings of what I already have. I own a 35 HP hydrostatic which I purchased and a 40hp gear tractor which I inheritted. Pulling the same 6.5' TR3 drag, the hydrostatic cant even think about high range, sometimes struggles in mid rang depending on how much dirt/sand it engages with, and low range is just so slow I could shoot myself. The gear tractor pulls it just fine. So in my head, gear tractor > hydro

Another complication is who might operate it. I have 2 employees, a wife, and 2 small children who may operate it in the future. My wife and employees cant drive a golf cart around the property without crashing, so there is no way I will ever let them operate a gear tractor. If I get a gear machine, I will be the sole operator for many years to come, and I will need to keep the hydro tractor for them to use. If I go with a hydro tractor, i may let other operate it after to new toy excitement wears off, and I can sell the hydro tractor to recoup some of the investment. So in my head, hydro > gear

When I first bought my farm, an older friend told me when purchasing a tractor, go bigger than you think you need, and get the cab.....I didnt listen. I dont intend to make that mistake again. I plan to go as big as a can while staying in the compact/small utility size frame so I can still get in and out of my indoor riding areans. Hydro tractors seem to top out around 60hp. Frustratingly, dealers seem only to be capable of pushing whatever they have in stock on you as opposed to providing confident answers on what exactly would be best for my purposes.

So my main question is, will I be disappointed in the dragging power/speed of a 50-60hp hydrostatic like I am the 35?

What is the best tire for sand, snow, turf?

I think I only have New Holland, Kubota, Massey and Deere on Long Island, so I'm open to specific recommendations from those makes.

Agree with the tractor weight being important. Just talked to my neighbor - he is searching for wheel weights for his NH 37 Workmaster. He has loaded the rear tires and puts about 1000 lbs in his ballast box and he says it is still too light - the tractor is just too small for his needs. He has a pretty steep driveway and has trouble plowing it uphill, and even downhill at times. Your 35hp hydro probably has about 30 hp useable to the wheels, due to the hydro power requirements.