Tym vs Massey Ferguson

[Skeletor]

Well I got the specs on the 2800e and m and to my surprise the e actually lifts more than the m. I suppose I’ll get used to the stupid treddle peddle and loader control up on the loader but I think I’d rather the extra lifting power. There’s a 5k difference in price between the two aswell.

I kinda want the hoe but jumping up to the bigger frame adds to cost so I might have to leave the backhoe behind.

 

[aesanders]

Well I got the specs on the 2800e and m and to my surprise the e actually lifts more than the m. I suppose I’ll get used to the stupid treddle peddle and loader control up on the loader but I think I’d rather the extra lifting power. There’s a 5k difference in price between the two aswell.

I kinda want the hoe but jumping up to the bigger frame adds to cost so I might have to leave the backhoe behind.

I prefer the side by side peddle, but really the treadle pedals aren’t bad. You do get used to them and they become second nature.

Same for the loader. In some ways, the loader mounted on the loader frame is a cleaner design. The good thing about the Massey loader mounts is that it is very moveable for where you want to locate it, and pretty beefy.

 

[Hay Dude]

Not 100% sure with the smaller loaders, but the bigger MF loaders are usually made by Quicke, who makes an excellent loader. Mine is extremely solid.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Not 100% sure with the smaller loaders, but the bigger MF loaders are usually made by Quicke, who makes an excellent loader. Mine is extremely solid.

The smaller ones are too, and for the most part they're exceptional. There seems to have been an issue with the loaders on the 18M, but I suspect that's been fixed. I mean, they've changed to a different design where it mounts to the tractor. I've seen two threads about failures here over the years, so it seems it's not a common problem, but one that did exist.

It was, if I recall, the use of square tubing versus round, combined with potentially bad welding. It caused me to make a visit to my local dealer to look at them, but all the machines there seemed to be in good shape.

 

[Skeletor]

All that’s left is so I get the backhoe or not? I keep going back and fourth. My wife and I hope to acquire some property in the future so it would definitely help down the road should that happen. It would be nice to have it all paid off at that time aswell. Right now it would basically be a mechanical hand for me doing firewood and the occasional digging project.

 

[stoyan79]

Don't forget, TYM offers only mechanical diesel engine in a new tractor, in the US. No computers, easy to defeat emissions crap. Proven Cummins diesel engines with Bosch mechanical pumps.

 

[Skeletor]

Don't forget, TYM offers only mechanical diesel engine in a new tractor, in the US. No computers, easy to defeat emissions crap. Proven Cummins diesel engines with Bosch mechanical pumps.

Very good point!

 

[EddieWalker]

Don't forget, TYM offers only mechanical diesel engine in a new tractor, in the US. No computers, easy to defeat emissions crap. Proven Cummins diesel engines with Bosch mechanical pumps.

I thought Zetor was the only one that did this?

 

[Torvy]

I thought Zetor was the only one that did this?

The small Zetor are made by TYM.

 

[Skeletor]

Does anyone know how to defeat the dpf filter if someone wanted to do such a terrible thing……

 

[Skeletor]

I just made a big sheet with all the numbers comparing the tym 474,494,574 and the Massey 1835m and the 2850e. The specs on paper look better than the Massey except for hydraulic flow. Weights are the same. Even the backhoe was almost the same as woods it was like 120 lbs of less digging force but that’s it.

In the pics it looks like the backhoe hangs a mile off the back of the tractor though. I still keep going back and fourth on getting the backhoe or not.

 

[aesanders]

I just made a big sheet with all the numbers comparing the tym 474,494,574 and the Massey 1835m and the 2850e. The specs on paper look better than the Massey except for hydraulic flow. Weights are the same. Even the backhoe was almost the same as woods it was like 120 lbs of less digging force but that’s it.

In the pics it looks like the backhoe hangs a mile off the back of the tractor though. I still keep going back and fourth on getting the backhoe or not.

TYMs specs will win just about everytime, against any make. Just keep in mind they are paper specs, and most won’t ever tell the difference. And specs do not always make a better tractor.

 

[Torvy]

TYMs specs will win just about everytime, against any make. Just keep in mind they are paper specs, and most won’t ever tell the difference. And specs do not always make a better tractor.

The TYM uses bigger cylinders than most. Not paper specs if it does it in the field.

TYM also has more standard features than most makes. As long as you have a good dealer, definitely worth a look.

 

[Skeletor]

TYMs specs will win just about everytime, against any make. Just keep in mind they are paper specs, and most won’t ever tell the difference. And specs do not always make a better tractor.

I’m concerned mostly about any lack of tym support if needed. Agco has a huge network. I beat the crapp outta my 1725 and never had an issue.

 

[Yander]

This would be my pick... YT3 Series | YANMAR Tractor

But I'm also a big fan of MF. No experience with TYM.

 

[EddieWalker]

Before buying, be sure to go and look at each one in person. I was really leaning to a few other brands before I bought my Massey, but after looking at the other brands, I didn't see any comparison to the 4707 in the 70 HP range of 4x4 cabbed tractors.

 

[stoyan79]

Yanmar makes great tractors. One of the best. But their dealer network is so small. Not a single dealer in Indiana. Really have no idea why they never expanded ...

This would be my pick... YT3 Series | YANMAR Tractor

But I'm also a big fan of MF. No experience with TYM.

 

[Skeletor]

Yanmar makes great tractors. One of the best. But their dealer network is so small. Not a single dealer in Indiana. Really have no idea why they never expanded ...

My Massey dealer has yanmar too but he has a super small selection and said they don’t do good financing plans so no one really buys them.

 

[Skeletor]

The dealer is recommending the 494 for what I wanna do with it. I asked about how long the backhoe sticks out when it’s stowed and he told me 8.5 feet. He said the tractor with how is like 21 feet long front to back. I have a postage stamp of land so total length is a concern.

In the future my wife and I hope to purchase more land so if I did a cab and or backhoe that would Be more used in the future than now. The way I look at it though if I wait then the same tractor will probly just cost another 10k that way it’s been going. He did caution me though if I want a cab it has to be done at time of purchase and I can add a hoe at anytime.

 

[Torvy]

I've got the turbo version. No problems so far. I'm mostly in trees, so cab is not worth it. I figured I could rent a mini ex for much less than the cost of the backhoe. Unless it is for light commercial work, it may not be for you either. It may be worth trying to estimate how many hours worth of backhoe work you have planned.