Turned 1000 hours - then crunch...

[phiferpharm]

I just turned 1000 hours on my DK45 HST and.... I hear (and feel) crunching noises from my left front wheel. I popped it out of 4 wheel drive, jump off and look. The wheel was covered in hydraulic fluid running down the inside of the wheel. My best guess is the seal, and wheel bearing went bye-bye at best, and the way it was sounding, I'm guessing more may be screwed up.

I got it out from where I was getting a bucketful of dirt, put it on level ground and shut it down. Hopefully the distance I drove it to get it out of the dirt pit didn't do more damage, but we'll see. I'm wondering if anybody has been down this road before, and has an idea what the parts might cost. I have a good repair mobile guy, who was the Kioti Service manager before his company closed (the owner retired), and have been happy with the service work he has done in the past, but would like a ballpark idea of what I'm facing before I call him.

While I'm not happy I had the problem, I have really been happy with the job the Kioti does. Other than having to replace the ignition (a weakness I knew about), I have had no issues with the tractor.

 

[ovrszd]

Sorry for your problems. We'll all face something like this if we work our tractors long enough. Only person that can give you an idea of cost is your mechanic friend.

 

[xcgreene]

Were you greasing that zerk on the upper shaft support? (blue arrow in drawing) Thats the only way that upper bearing gets properly lubricated.

If you were, perhaps the shims (where the green arrow is pointing) were not correct from factory, causing too much play.



I'm curious what you find the cause was here. I hope things work out for you.

 

[phiferpharm]

I'm curious what you find the cause was here. I hope things work out for you.

Thanks - I have greased every fitting fairly frequently, so I'm not sure if I have missed this one ( I don't think so). I'll post what the mechanic says once it's fixed.

 

[ovrszd]

I'm gonna guess part # 6208 or 6209 in xcgreene's excellent picture.

 

[IXLR8]

This has happened to several folks and they have posted pics/part #'s/prices. I didn't bookmark them so I don't have easy access to them. Good luck.

 

[phiferpharm]

This has happened to several folks and they have posted pics/part #'s/prices. I didn't bookmark them so I don't have easy access to them. Good luck.

Good Idea! Found this searching...

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...375598-dk40-front-bearing-failure-1300-a.html

 

[coobie]

This has happened to several folks and they have posted pics/part #'s/prices. I didn't bookmark them so I don't have easy access to them. Good luck.

Define SEVERAL?Just curious?

 

[motownbrowne]

Define SEVERAL?Just curious?

I'm pretty sure it happened to one guy way out in the woods and he and his mechanic had to pack in tools and parts and fix it on site. If I recall correctly he got it fixed up and returned to service only to have the other one fail within a week or two. By his own admission though, he was subjecting the loader to bulldozer-like duty.

 

[IXLR8]

I thought I read of 2 or 3 events, but the one that was posted is the one that I was referring to.

 

[coobie]

I thought I read of 2 or 3 events, but the one that was posted is the one that I was referring to.

So NOT SEVERAL as you initially posted..

 

[ovrszd]

I've done that too.

I think this problem is rare.

 

[southerniltractor]

Is this situation similar?

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/375598-dk40-front-bearing-failure-1300-a.html

Cheers,
Mike

 

[phiferpharm]

Is this situation similar?

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/375598-dk40-front-bearing-failure-1300-a.html

Cheers,
Mike

Yup, this is the one I found and posted earlier

 

[southerniltractor]

How did you make out with your repair Doug? I am following this one closely because I use my DK-40se HST for mostly heavy FEL work.

Thanks,
Mike

 

[phiferpharm]

How did you make out with your repair Doug? I am following this one closely because I use my DK-40se HST for mostly heavy FEL work.

Thanks,
Mike

I'm waiting for my repair guy to get over here next week. I have had several appointments away from the house, so I had to hold off until next week. I hear ya on the heavy FEL work. Having to muck my horses and fill the holes my silly Bloodhounds dig is a PIA using my Rhino, shovel, and a little wagon....

 

[Robin Veerman]

Is this situation similar?

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/375598-dk40-front-bearing-failure-1300-a.html

Cheers,
Mike

My Tractor is the smaller CK30 and at the 50hour service I changed the front axle lube to Amsoil 75W110 Severe Gear. I think that the 80/90 is too light if one uses the FEL for heavy work, like I do.
Dutchy

 

[Robin Veerman]

Were you greasing that zerk on the upper shaft support? (blue arrow in drawing) Thats the only way that upper bearing gets properly lubricated.

If you were, perhaps the shims (where the green arrow is pointing) were not correct from factory, causing too much play.

View attachment 537603

I'm curious what you find the cause was here. I hope things work out for you.

Where did you find the schematics for the front hub? Do you have a link that you could share, in particular, for my CK30 HST? Thanks, Dutchy

 

[cabin kioti]

I have a 2006 CK30HST that had the same problem. I took it apart in my shop and went to my local New Holland dealer and they had the bearing and seal in stock. I was prepared to drive the 175 mile round trip for the parts. All total the bearing/race/seal and labor was 85.00 dollars. If it is the bearing the numbers can be cross referenced. Good luck. A lot of loader work will have some effect on the front end even though it is built for it.

 

[ovrszd]

I have a 2006 CK30HST that had the same problem. I took it apart in my shop and went to my local New Holland dealer and they had the bearing and seal in stock. I was prepared to drive the 175 mile round trip for the parts. All total the bearing/race/seal and labor was 85.00 dollars. If it is the bearing the numbers can be cross referenced. Good luck. A lot of loader work will have some effect on the front end even though it is built for it.

Good stuff right there!!!! I've also used O'Reilly's Auto Parts to cross bearing numbers. Only buy from the manufacturer when it's necessity.