tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix

/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #41  
Glad to hear. More then one recommended that...
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #42  
Yup, gotta love that "congressional gas" ... Steve
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #43  
Ok, i don't get this. I've had my saw since 92 with the same fuel hose. I probably just jinxed myself. Then there's the buddy of mine with a cheap one man auger and his fuel hose rotted right off into the fuel tank. I think it's the hoses that have change, for the cheaper, and that's one of the big problems we have to deal with. I think hygroscopic effects of the ethanol contribute to carburetor issues so i use fuel supplements to hopefully stave off those effects.
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #44  
Speaking of sea foam and ethanol free gas.... If you ever smell sea foam, it has that distinctive alcohol smell to it. There are other petrol based products in it, but it smells mainly like isopropyl alcohol.

Are we wasting our money by buying ethanol free gas and then adding sea foam?
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #45  
What is IPA?

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Bruce
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #46  
IPA is isopropyl alcohol.

Ethanol is also alcohol.

Are we trading out one evil for another?
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #47  
Maybe trading one evil for another but sea foam has saved me a whole lot of carb overhauls over my "fixing" things years...carb overhaul in a can unless they are real bad..
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #48  
I wonder if the two alcohols have different solvent and water absorption properties.

Bruce
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #49  
Kinda like saying methanol and bourbon are both alcohol.....
My Stihl/Husky dealer tells me it doesn't matter if I burn 20:1 or 40:1, as long as its hi-test gas cause its got NO alcohol.
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #50  
Did a little research. Ethanol is made from grains, and IPA is made from propane.

In theory, IPA should be much better on the rubber components versus ethanol.
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #51  
Did a little research. Ethanol is made from grains, and IPA is made from propane.

In theory, IPA should be much better on the rubber components versus ethanol.

Not saying your wrong, and i bet your right about the effect of ipa vs ethanol, but what is your theory based on?
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #52  
The higher alcohols tend to be less corrosive. Methanol>ethanol>propanol>butanol...etc IPA is a propanol
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #53  
Propane is a petroleum by-product. So, mixing it with gas should be safer. I've been trying to do some internet searches, but a lot of people use ethanol and IPA interchangeably. So, not a lot of help there.
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix
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#54  
Glad to hear. More then one recommended that...

Yes, seemed like the likely culprit. It was tough to diagnose. When I blew through the line it was clear and it felt fine to the touch. However a small portion is held in place by the fuel vent on these saws and that is the area that would collapse at high RPMs and isn't visible without taking the tank apart. I'll now keep a spare fuel line and filter on-hand since it's cheap enough.
 
/ tree removal - chaisaw problem, wrog fuel mix #55  
Mine softened/collapsed right where the end of the fuel line goes into the filter - maybe it's because that part would tend to flex more as the filter/counterweight finds the lowest point as you move the saw, or maybe just because that part is nearly always submerged in the crap our all-knowing leaders think is OK... Steve
 

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