Tree cutting accident

/ Tree cutting accident #161  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 122918" data-quote="WinterDeere" data-source="post: 6654209" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6654209" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6654209">WinterDeere said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Emerald Ash Borer. Brought into the Great Lakes region from China, been spreading out from there the last 15 years.<br /> <br /> <br /> That&#039;s exaggerating the point a bit, but yeah... EAB-killed trees do get brittle and unpredictable with time. I&#039;ve been felling them quite regularly, the last ten years. Many in the 40&quot; - 48&quot; DBH range, on the property where I happen to do most of my cutting. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>All our ash trees are dead and dying here. Never head it being referred to as EAB.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #163  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 308001" data-quote="ArlyA" data-source="post: 6654441" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6654441" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6654441">ArlyA said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> All our ash trees are dead and dying here. Never head it being referred to as EAB. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You’ve been hanging around the wrong crowd, then. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #164  
<div class="bbWrapper">Look for the holes in the bark shaped like a D<br /> That&#039;s Emerald Ash borer, it girdles the tree as the larva grow and eat, then they mature, go through the bark and into the next tree.<br /> <br /> I tried to use the poison that gets in through the tree roots, but even that tree died.<br /> Usually by the time the tree shows any signs, it&#039;s too late :-(<br /> <br /> Some people have kept a few alive, and a few seem to not have EAB. But it&#039;s inevitable that the mature ones will be gone.<br /> I am keeping a few stumps clear to have suckers come out, but not many of those survive either.<br /> <br /> Every time it&#039;s windy here, you can here the tree parts crashing in the woods.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #165  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 168411" data-quote="oosik" data-source="post: 6642184" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6642184" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6642184">oosik said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> A couple weeks ago a dead tree fell in the night. About 100 feet from the house. Woke the dog - his barking scared the snot out of me and woke me. Luckily, it fell parallel to the house and not across it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Sounds too close for comfort! Glad you escaped any damage.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #166  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 122918" data-quote="WinterDeere" data-source="post: 6643118" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6643118" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6643118">WinterDeere said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> A chainsaw should never be used on a ladder, period. Your options are:<br /> <br /> 1. Pole saw<br /> 2. Learn to climb<br /> 3. Get a lift or bucket truck </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Never used a bucket to cut limbs yet but will be doing it at some point. I saw a FB advertisment the other day from a &#039;landscape service&#039; that showed a guy in a manlift bucket cutting a limb with a saw (not a polesaw) and it appeared that the limb was hanging over the edge of the manlift/bucket. I&#039;m sure it just the angle of the picture but it is a reminder that even in a bucket or manlift you have to be careful.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #167  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 25476" data-quote="RandyT" data-source="post: 6644665" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6644665" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6644665">RandyT said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Just got word from his wife this morning that he past away last night about 10:30 </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Very sorry to read this bad news. Let it be a reminder.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #168  
<div class="bbWrapper">Dead trees scare me. If anyone knows a great (safe) way to get them down I would like to know about it. I won’t stand under one and cut it. I have envisioned a saw with a long handle supported on a turn pole. Allowing one to stand far off and get the widow maker down.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #169  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 124480" data-quote="CalG" data-source="post: 6642135" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6642135" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6642135">CalG said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Very often smaller branches come out of our maple trees during a breeze. It always amazes me how the but ends can penetrate the ground to a depth that makes pulling them out a major chore.<br /> <br /> A hard hat would be found somewhere around the lungs if one of those hit top down. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Unless it’s a straight down vertical hit, a hard hat should cause a glancing blow</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #170  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 347610" data-quote="Woodfarmer" data-source="post: 6656440" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6656440" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6656440">Woodfarmer said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Unless it’s a straight down vertical hit, a hard hat should cause a glancing blow </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Safety gear is cheap, while injury&#039;s are expensive and no fun. I like fun better.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #171  
<div class="bbWrapper">I lost my best friend a year ago. He was working on a tree that fell down a very steep hill. He was very safety conscious. The tree shifted and pinned him against a sapling. I found him the next morning.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #172  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 334162" data-quote="1956guillotineguy" data-source="post: 6656452" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6656452" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6656452">1956guillotineguy said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I lost my best friend a year ago. He was working on a tree that fell down a very steep hill. He was very safety conscious. The tree shifted and pinned him against a sapling. I found him the next morning. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Sawyer safety rule #4. Have someone with you.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #173  
<div class="bbWrapper">After being trained by my employer on chainsaws for use at work, and having gone through the fireline saw training, I can’t help but wear chaps and some sort of eye, ear, and head protection. I now find it somewhat embarrassing to use a saw without putting that stuff on first. Habit yes, but we also point and comment about the homeowners in jeans waving a running saw around like it’s a toy. My dad cut without that stuff for many years, even after I told him not to, until he finally cut his leg and needed stitches.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #174  
<div class="bbWrapper">I cut fire wood. when there is a dangerous tree I usually notch it, back cut a bit, and then use an 8000 lb winch hooked to another tree to pull it down. So I&#039;m not under or near it.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #175  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 385597" data-quote="EdwardL" data-source="post: 6656465" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6656465" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6656465">EdwardL said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I cut fire wood. when there is a dangerous tree I usually notch it, back cut a bit, and then use an 8000 lb winch hooked to another tree to pull it down. So I&#039;m not under or near it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>More often than not, and always if I&#039;m near a building, I climb up as high as I can on a 24&#039; extension ladder. Tie off with 2 90&#039; ropes and tie them to 2 come alongs. Then take up the slack. Then I cut the notch and a heavy hinge. Then pull it over.<br /> <br /> Cut down 25 90&#039; spruces that were very close to the house this way without incident. Took me a week to burn up all the branches.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #176  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 169458" data-quote="Hay Dude" data-source="post: 6642192" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6642192" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6642192">Hay Dude said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have never worn a safety device in my life outside of safety glasses maybe 50% of the time.<br /> Been at it for 40+ years without a significant injury.<br /> <br /> Added: I in no way condone this. My injuries have been mostly falls or a few concussions. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Can you still hear well, or have you had hearing loss?</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #177  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 2815" data-quote="MossRoad" data-source="post: 6642624" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6642624" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6642624">MossRoad said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> IF I ever take up motorcycle riding again, I&#039;ll definitely take a class. I have friends that still ride and from what I&#039;ve been told, the classes are well worth it.<br /> <br /> I recall one year when I put the bike away for the winter, got it out in the spring, took off on a curvy road I liked to push it on, and found that my skills had diminished greatly in just the 4-5 months, and ended up hopping a curb into the grass before I could stop. Fortunately, there was a driveway cut in the curb that I managed to go through, or I&#039;d have lost it.<br /> <br /> A good lesson in keeping your skills up. Use it or lose it. Etc. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>It would be interesting to figure out what proportion/combination of factors put you over this edge;<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Stale unrefreshed consciousness and skill,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Unscrubbed 5 mo oxidation on the tires,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cool stiff rubber,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cool road surface.</li> </ul>Doesnt take much of a wheel &quot;skate&quot; to set off the sphincter and freeze you.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #178  
<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://tractorbynet.com/forums/members/25476/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="25476" data-username="@RandyT">@RandyT</a> Sorry to hear about your friend. <br /> <br /> Preface to the following story... I grew up on a large farm and we used wood to heat both the house and shop. My current shop also has wood heat, although I did plumb it for in-floor heat. I&#039;m tempted to buy a boiler for it this fall so I don&#039;t have to cut firewood.<br /> The wife and I built our dream home on 22 acres of wooded land overlooking a medium-sized river. In the summer of 2020, I was cutting some small trees down (&lt;6&quot; dia) for a better river view from our deck. I had full safety gear on (helmet, chaps &amp; boots). I had just cut a small 5&quot;-ish inch tree down and was in the process of standing up when I got hit with a tremendous force and driven to the ground. Turns out that a tree that I wasn&#039;t even working on broke off about halfway up, hit me in the back of the head, and went down my back. It was a dead oak that was 12&quot;-14&quot; at the base. The wife watched it happen from the deck but, of course, couldn&#039;t do anything about it. Two of my three kids, along with my son-in-law, were there. The EMTs responded very quickly and were there within 10 minutes, but they had a hard time getting me out of the woods because of the steep hill up to our house. They loaded me in the ambulance and drove me a 1/8 of a mile down the road to a clearing where the helicopter was waiting, which then flew me to the nearest trauma center. I had three broken ribs where they attach to one&#039;s spine, a collapsed left lung, a broken shoulder blade, a crushed T-12 in my back, and a &quot;mild&quot; traumatic brain injury. When they were hauling me up the hill I could feel something moving around in my chest, which, of course, was my lung. It was a terrible feeling.<br /> I spent a week in the hospital and then three months in a back brace, and 6 weeks in a neck brace. I am still not over my brain injury and probably never will be. I had already had three lower back surgeries before this accident, so this did not help. I also have a congenital issue with my neck where I have absolutely no room for my spinal cord, which limits my head movement. I came within a whisker of being paralyzed. I also have &quot;hidden&quot; injuries that are starting to show, like a knee issue that needs fixing now. <br /> <br /> Sorry for the long-winded post, but wanted to share how quickly things can go sideways in the woods. I also want to point out that without my Stihl helmet, I would be dead. It is as blunt as that. Without that piece of safety gear, I would not be here.<br /> <br /> Please be safe out there.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #179  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 24925" data-quote="SPYDERLK" data-source="post: 6656515" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6656515" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6656515">SPYDERLK said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It would be interesting to figure out what proportion/combination of factors put you over this edge;<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Stale unrefreshed consciousness and skill,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Unscrubbed 5 mo oxidation on the tires,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cool stiff rubber,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cool road surface.</li> </ul>Doesnt take much of a wheel &quot;skate&quot; to set off the sphincter and freeze you. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>100% it was loss of skill from months of non-riding on my part. I&#039;d taken the curve many times, bike was in perfect condition. <br /> <br /> Similar thing happens to overconfident swimmers in the spring. They hop in the lake thinking they&#039;re in just as good of shape and conditioning as they were last year when they did it no issues. Get half way across the lake and poop out. Hopefully they don&#039;t panic and just float their way to safety.</div>
 
/ Tree cutting accident #180  
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32987" data-quote="jwinner" data-source="post: 6656460" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=6656460" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6656460">jwinner said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> After being trained by my employer on chainsaws for use at work, and having gone through the fireline saw training, I can’t help but wear chaps and some sort of eye, ear, and head protection. I now find it somewhat embarrassing to use a saw without putting that stuff on first. Habit yes, but we also point and comment about the homeowners in jeans waving a running saw around like it’s a toy. My dad cut without that stuff for many years, even after I told him not to, until he finally cut his leg and needed stitches. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What was the training program you took?</div>
 
 
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