Tractor in the mountains

   / Tractor in the mountains #1  

CLkid

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2010 Kubota L3400
We have a L 3400 Kubota that has exceeded our expectations. However, since we are in mountains of Northern Colorado the land is NOT level. Any one have any idea how much slope it takes to put this tractor on its side, something I do not want to do. I know it will make a difference if there is a load in the bucket and the amount of weight I have on the back end, but there must be some number that indicates the degrees of slope to stay away from. I'm bascially a chicken when it comes to slope with this tractor. Along anther line of thought, I have read many things about attaching a backhoe to tractors of this size. Any one have any experience with a backhoe on an L 3400. Has anyone come up with an economical solution to additon of weight on the backend. I have a blade on the 3 point and have attached bar bell weights onto the blade. Seems to work, but I would like more weight than the estimated 300 pounds I currently have. Thanks and have a good day.
 
   / Tractor in the mountains #2  
Welcome to TBN. :)
 
   / Tractor in the mountains #4  
but there must be some number that indicates the degrees of slope to stay away from

That number is commonly called "the pucker factor" you will undoubtedly experience it , just don't or try not to over exceed it.
 
   / Tractor in the mountains #5  
Welcome to TBN, I have a L2800 which is the exact same as your but just a few less horses. I have a backhoe on mine and leave it on most of the time. It is a great counterweight, get a thumb for it too, as well as handy as a mini crane and oh yea it digs pretty well too! I also put duals on it front and rear, I did it for floatation on the beach but it gives me incredible stability on the side hills too. Unverferth.com makes duals for the rear for your tractor.

Rick
 
   / Tractor in the mountains #6  
"Pucker Factor" = If it scares you, don't go there.

10, 20, 30, Degrees really has not meaning in many cases. What was safe yesterday, may not be safe today. Damp ground, low wheel hits a low spot, high wheel goes over a rock or bump.

Keep your FEL bucket very close to the ground. Real important if loaded. If you have a back hoe swing it to the up hill side.

Class Dismissed - Time for a cold one. :laughing::thumbsup:
 
   / Tractor in the mountains #7  
The operator's manual for the L 3400 Kubota just might have that information. Read the book and don't go by what someone that says that they have worked tractors on 45 degree angles all their life.

If you are working on inclines where having to depend on the position of the bucket, back hoe counter weight and ballast you are at risk.

And degrees of slope / angles aren't all that difficult to measure. Get some numbers to go by.
 
   / Tractor in the mountains #8  
Welcome to the forum. Do you have your rear tires filled with liquid ballast? Often referred to as "loading" the rear tires. It makes a huge difference in stability and traction by adding weight below the center of gravity. A search on the forum will give you days of reading.

While searching look for "ballast box". As the name implies it is a box or container of weight that hangs off the 3pt hitch. Home made versions would include a garbage can or drum filled with concrete.

I don't know if the L3400 has the capability to set the rear tires to different widths. If so you want the widest setting. On some tractors the axles are adjustable or the wheels are reversible to achieve a wider stance for stability.

MarkV
 
   / Tractor in the mountains #9  
Hello & WELCOME to TBN!

I moved your thread to the Kubota Owning/Operating Forum. :)
 
   / Tractor in the mountains #10  
I know it will make a difference if there is a load in the bucket and the amount of weight I have on the back end, but there must be some number that indicates the degrees of slope to stay away from.

I've looked for this info in my manual and couldn't find anything. Also looked in service manual and online. All I can find is the highly descriptive but imprecise "pucker factor".

One of the things on my todo list is to simulate a rollover by putting a floor jack under one side of my tractor and start lifting. I'll keep the ROPs and FEL frame strapped to a big tree with a ratchet strap and keep lifting and loosening the strap until it starts to tip and just puts tension on the strap. That's the point where it would roll over. That at least gives me some idea whether it's 15 degrees or 75 degrees. I've watched the road crews go by and mow the sloped ditch in front of our house, they have a beer in one hand, a magazine in the other and don't even slow down. I'm out there like Barney Fife worried my tractor is going to roll over. I'm with you, I'd like to get some idea where the danger point is.
 

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