Tractor FEL Crane *Update*

[arrabil]

Rather easy to deduce from this who actually reads before responding and who doesn't. It doesn't really matter if a turnbuckle should fail, I've already got it covered. Those who actually read the thread know why.

You must not be reading your own thread then. Not a single response has said anything other than that is extremely dangerous and poorly thought out but that no one wishes you harm.

 

[arrow]

If someone saw a chainsaw in action for the first time I guess one would get the same responses about safety. I personally think it was carefully thought out and very well explained and evidenced form your thought process, you are not going to put yourself or anyone else in harms way. Should work well for you. I think there may be a job for you in China. Some of the instruction manuals they produce are incomprehensible.

 

[Bedlam]

I think he was referencing where he said he has a piece of cable 'bypassing' the buckle . SHould it fail the cable would pick up the slack.

 

[true temper]

Did it kill him???

 

[BX2230Dude]

Found this on his YouTube channel. Home video of the first attempt to lift those trusses. It looks like one of those turnbuckles failed.

YouTube - John Deere 6200 fire

 

[Gale Hawkins]

If someone saw a chainsaw in action for the first time I guess one would get the same responses about safety. I personally think it was carefully thought out and very well explained and evidenced form your thought process, you are not going to put yourself or anyone else in harms way. Should work well for you. I think there may be a job for you in China. Some of the instruction manuals they produce are incomprehensible.

Arrow the chainsaw thing made me laugh.

Based on some of these posts they could not be from tractor or lawn mower users. It is good to see those like PhilCase who can apply critical thinking to finding solutions and then apply that solution.

I would like to take the time to do something like this with our electric pole saw so I can trim trees from the tractor seat instead from the top of a 12' step ladder setting in the bed of the dump truck. I am thinking of keeping the generator on ground instead of in the bucket.

The kids like to get involved in coming up with these solutions too and it is a good way to teach them the dangers they will meet in life when you are not around.

 

[jlrsn]

Home video of the first attempt to lift those trusses. It looks like one of those turnbuckles failed.
YouTube - John Deere 6200 fire

I guess this was a try at sick humor! False postings like this are worse than all the doomsday replies of this thread. Yes the turnbuckles are a weak spot but have been corrected for and he'll do the lift without a problem. It's a very simple lift and a lot has been made throughout this thread about all the dangers involved! Most criticisms have been made by posters that must have led a very sheltered life and have no experience! I'm surprised that they get out of bed in the mornings with all the dangers awaiting them!

Jim (Who has lifted thousands of trusses)

 

[arrabil]

False postings like this are worse than all the doomsday replies of this thread.

No dude, your's is the worst post of the thread. They specifically make overhead lifting rigging and winches. Advocating in public that everything is okay when none of it is used it irresponsible. And advocating in public that admitted (!) weak points "have been corrected for" is doubly irresponsible. Shouldn't a good design not contain ANY admitted weak point that need to be corrected for? Shouldn't a good design be made of parts that are designed for this very purpose?

EDIT: I mean seriously, the guy can't even put on cable clamps the right way. And I'm wondering how many of you supporters don't even understand what the big deal in that is.

 

[jlrsn]

arrabil,
Like I said in my last post; "Most criticisms have been made by posters that must have led a very sheltered life and have no experience! I'm surprised that they get out of bed in the mornings with all the dangers awaiting them!"

I rest my case!!

Jim

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I guess this was a try at sick humor! False postings like this are worse than all the doomsday replies of this thread. Yes the turnbuckles are a weak spot but have been corrected for and he'll do the lift without a problem. It's a very simple lift and a lot has been made throughout this thread about all the dangers involved! Most criticisms have been made by posters that must have led a very sheltered life and have no experience! I'm surprised that they get out of bed in the mornings with all the dangers awaiting them!

Jim (Who has lifted thousands of trusses)

Jim I do not think these posters are serious about this being so dangerous but just want to get in on the thread. If they are then your last two sentences would seem correct perhaps after all.

 

[arrabil]

You didn't make a case. A case involves rational thought. You made an insult.

But to answer you... its one thing to get out of bed in the morning and risk getting killed on the highway. Its completely another to get on the same highway in a bicycle and give the finger to everyone honking at you.

 

[jlrsn]

Hi Gale,
Anyone that calls me "Dude" is of the younger set that must have had training wheels on their tricycle to avoid unforeseen dangers. The sad thing is that I have had over 25 close friends join the crispy critter club one at a time and die violent deaths doing what I specialized in. Some I watched happen and others I flew news flights on afterwards! I legally carry a concealed weapon and the reaction to that from the younger set is mind boggling! We live in a different world today! I don't understand the over reaction against someone trying to do something that is different. That's what made the United States #1......in the past!
Take care,
Jim

 

[Scotty370]

Geez Guys! Cut Phil some slack!!! I'm sure he appreciates your concern for "Life and Limb" but he also seems to know the risks involved, and is addressing them as safely as possible. With the remote winch, I think he'll be out of harms way if things go South! I wasn't raised in a 'bubble', and every 'skinned knee' taught me a lesson! Let's get realistic, he's not on a bike, on the highway, with 'finger-up........geez....!!! ~Scotty

JLRNS-Now we're into conceled weapons?? Where did I miss this 'threads' detour??? ~S

Well Saturday has come and gone.....Let's wait until he drags himself out of the collapsed rubble, and find out what he's learned, for the benefit of the group! ~Scotty

 

[wldrbob]

well trying to do something different is fine . he just didnt have all the info he needed to make his job safer. im sure you wouldnt hand someone your side arm fully loaded and with the safty off without telling them how to handle it .as for his saftey cables it is going to help but if one turnbuckle breaks its still going to throw that truss around till the slack is out . a little homework and a few bucks more and he could have a ginpole set up that he could use for many other jobs.

 

[The Haymaker]

Hi Gale,
Anyone that calls me "Dude" is of the younger set that must have had training wheels on their tricycle to avoid unforeseen dangers. The sad thing is that I have had over 25 close friends join the crispy critter club one at a time and die violent deaths doing what I specialized in. Some I watched happen and others I flew news flights on afterwards! I legally carry a concealed weapon and the reaction to that from the younger set is mind boggling! We live in a different world today! I don't understand the over reaction against someone trying to do something that is different. That's what made the United States #1......in the past!
Take care,
Jim

Hey! I'm kinda the younger set, and I'll still say "Amen Brutha!"

 

[arrabil]

I'm sure he appreciates your concern for "Life and Limb" but he also seems to know the risks involved, and is addressing them as safely as possible.

Seriously? Addressing them as safely as possible? You call installing cable clamps wrong, off-centering a boom pole, not distributing its load bearing point, not using overhead lift rigging, a winch without an emergency brake, and 350lb wll turnbuckles "as safely as possible"? You really think thats safe? Seriously?

 

[jlrsn]

Where did I miss this 'threads' detour??? ~S

Scotty,
I shouldn't have brought it up but I had just been told how dangerous my life and what I do/did is on another forum that had to do with CWs.

PhilCase,
Do the lift and we can put this thread to rest.
Jim

 

[Scotty370]

arrabil- Excuuuuuuuuuuusssssssss me "Mr OSHA! And, no, I'm not Phil's defense attorney, but if you read back, I think you'll find that Phil has taken the suggestions given , IE plastic sleeve removal, clamp realignnment etc. to heart! If you need to turn on your coffee maker tomorrow, I suggest you call your electrician, Union, of course, and with all applicable permits in place.........

 

[arrabil]

I'm not Phil's defense attorney

Geez Guys! Cut Phil some slack!!! I'm sure he appreciates your concern for "Life and Limb" but he also seems to know the risks involved, and is addressing them as safely as possible.

You sound like his defense attorney to me... Johnny Cochran like.

If you need to turn on your coffee maker tomorrow

Yet again you defenders seem to miss the point.... the coffee maker is designed with the best safety features in mind. If I built a camp fire in the kitchen in order to boil water then I could see where you were going with it... [But then I'd expect you to come to my defense because I was doing things different, being an American, and pissing on OSHA.]

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Fear of the unknown spared the native Americans for a long time but it turned out the earth was not flat after someone tested their hunch.

Phil is going into this with both eyes open. At worse I expect is he will drop one and have to rebuild it.

People like all animals are hard wired differently. Some here may not have followed their father/mother out of the house each morning to make a living on the farm by making do with what they had to do with. It was dangerous and some lost limb and lift and kids that witnessed that may be adverse to risk taking today so they would never try something new or that could be dangerous.

I would like a good way to have a 3 point hitch on top of our bucket so I would use one of those 2000 pound rated boom poles in a safe manner. It would be great for loading light items.