Towing - How

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RobertN

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Did we used to do it, with so little, but tow so much?

This was from before I was born(I have seen it a number of times...). How did people live with little 125hp motors, and towing with cars of all things?

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It was also prior to the Interstate system...
 
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Did you see the dolly they installed under the trailer hitch that carried most of the tongue weight and electric trailer brakes that had to be manually actuated?
 
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It has been a while since I have seen the movie.

Did you see the dolly they installed under the trailer hitch that carried most of the tongue weight and electric trailer brakes that had to be manually actuated?
 
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And the cars in those days weighed more than my truck! :laughing:
 
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The main thing is people were not in such a frantic hurry, there was a lot less traffic and everyone was just used to going with what they had. Plus cars were way heavier and built like trucks, with cast iron V8s and big differentials. With smaller roads the 75 MPH hour after hour runs were not possible.

People used what they had instead of specializing or having several vehicles. The family car was also used for towing.

My grandmother had a friend that bought a brand new Dodge Power Wagon in about 1952. He drove it all the way out west from Detroit at 35 MPH. It was common for my family, when I was a kid, to go on vacation with our old '55 Dodge and tow a trailer. It had a bumper hitch and my Dad would also make dump runs or haul equipment or whatever with it.

Progress is all about small improvements over time. Now I can't get by without my Cummins. :laughing:
 
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All it took was Patience and lots of gears or More Patience and a good low gear.:thumbsup:

Stopping was something much different!:D

I'm still in that same situation with an anemic old Dodge with a Cumins.:laughing:
 
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Hmm 125hp ?? My brothers Mercedes Vito has a GVW of 2.8 ton and a combined GVW of 4.8 ton. It has a 90hp diesel with plenty of torque: It does everything it needs to do, within the limits of the law. It pulls its max allowed GVW in 6th and doesnt lug down when the wind is against.

You could better ask, how did we get by with 125hp and just a 3 speed ?
 
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I've often wondered about it myself...

I have the single axle trailer my uncle used exclusively during his race career in the late fifties and early 60's...

He always towed with either a snappy new convertible or station wagon... they normally took both cars to each race... the station wagon was to haul the extra equipment.

This trailer has been to almost every state in the union... never a problem. It has hauled everything from Shelby Cobra, Lotus, Shelby Mustang and even a Ford GT-40 to the International Car Show in San Francisco...

No one back then had a double axle trailer and most pickups were just not as comfortable as cars in the fifties.

Fast forward to today... I use the same trailer to move my little BX-23 around and frequently am asked when I will get a real trailer or is that trailer even legal...

Well, according the vehicle code in my State, it is legal based on the date of manufacture... just like my antique cars only require the equipment at the time they were made...

My 1905 Oldsmobile is fully licensed, insured and drivable in all 50 States... no brake lights, turn signals, 4 wheel brakes, windshield, seat belts, mirrors, manufacturer load rating etc...

I have a friend that regularly used his old double AA Model A flat-bed in his business... he will put many full rolls of carpet from the mill to his warehouse... it is exempt from weight fees due to age... his dodge stretch vans can only move one roll. The Model A has only 40 hp and never runs out of torque.

He was stopped once for being overweight.... the officer called his supervisor when my friend asked how the officer figured he was over... they let him go once they found out he was 100% legal under the vehicle code...

My best advice is take it slow and easy...
 
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The first car my father bought was a Fiat 500, which was traded for his Kreidler moped and three piglets, because my mama was pregnant and the cattle trader he did business with, said he shouldnt move his pregnant wife around on the back of a moped. He was right offcourse.
Anyways, a few years after, my father became a reknown pig breeder and sold his breeding gelts all over the country. Therefor he needed a trailer and a car capable of towing one.
His first "real" car was a Ford Taunus 2.3 liter V6. He thought a six pot would be the proper engine to tow. Boy he was wrong, it pulled 80 in 3rd, but when shifting to 4th it died down back to 60 pretty quick. After a year he changed it for a B21 powered Volvo 244, which was a smaller four cylinder, with (compared to other gas engines) a boatload of torque. On the drag strip the Taunus would win by three car lengths because of its higher power at screamin'high revs, but the Volvo had a flat torque curve.

Most older gas engines (at least in Europe) were tuned for max horsepower for the given engine displacement, which in the time of single carburettors and 2 valves per cylinder, meant that there was no torque at low rpm. Engines like the Volvo B21 and B23 had low maximum power but a much wider torque band. UNLESS you went for the high-end carburettors that were not found on most average joe production models.

I think the old flathead V8's despite their low power to displacement ratio, put out a similar or even better torque figure (i mean the flat curve, not absolute numbers) than nowadays fuel injected, variable cam high performance engines.
Also, other cars didnt go fast either so you wouldnt notice you were slow when towing.
 
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The first trailer I pulled was truly a "bumper pull". A stock trailer pulled from a ball mounted on the bumper. A few years later I made a "drop hitch" from plate steel, in welding shop class, to mount to my bumper. Today if I pull a bumper pull (or tag along) trailer it's from a solidly mounted receiver hitch. I remember seeing as a kid those hitches that mounted to car bumpers that wrapped around with a chain apparatus. Different times....:eek:
 
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I remeber friends, and later my parents, towing a 18' trael trailer with a '70 4-door Fury. It towed pretty good. Had electric brakes and controller.

Friends of family didn't necessarily tow, but had the large late 60's/early 70's 9 person station wagons with big-blocks. Those could haul pretty well.

The advances in power are ok, but the biggest advances are safety in large brakes, 4-wheel disc ect. If had to give stuff up, I'd give up pwer before those advances in brakes, anti lock ect.
 
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The first trailer I pulled was truly a "bumper pull". A stock trailer pulled from a ball mounted on the bumper. A few years later I made a "drop hitch" from plate steel, in welding shop class, to mount to my bumper. Today if I pull a bumper pull (or tag along) trailer it's from a solidly mounted receiver hitch. I remember seeing as a kid those hitches that mounted to car bumpers that wrapped around with a chain apparatus. Different times....:eek:

I've got a couple of those wrap around bumper hitches...

Use one for the boat up at the cabin... a 1976 Granada was the last car I could use it on.
 
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Its amazing more bumpers weren't pulled from the cars. Those U-haul bumper hitches and lite-duty welded hitches were pretty "iffy" in many cases. But most people towed at about 50 mph and had some level of common sense.

Some of those tow cars for travel trailers had big engines....were decked out with the wd hitches and had overload springs and other towing aids....but lots needed to be learned.
 
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Its amazing more bumpers weren't pulled from the cars. Those U-haul bumper hitches and lite-duty welded hitches were pretty "iffy" in many cases. But most people towed at about 50 mph and had some level of common sense.

Some of those tow cars for travel trailers had big engines....were decked out with the wd hitches and had overload springs and other towing aids....but lots needed to be learned.

My Uncle liked Oldsmobiles with 455 engines... never a problem going through the mountains. He also had a huge Chrysler at one time... I really think it got about 6 miles to the gallon towing.
 
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Interesting discussion, there has been a big shift from need to want over the years. I find it funny that a '72 Ford LTD Country Squire Wagon had almost the same towing capacity as my F-250. :confused2:
 
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Interesting discussion, there has been a big shift from need to want over the years. I find it funny that a '72 Ford LTD Country Squire Wagon had almost the same towing capacity as my F-250. :confused2:

Exactly... neighbor towed a huge airstream with one... it was a 72 with a 460...

Had a tow package with extra capacity radiator, larger alternator and transmission cooler...

Load equalizing hitch too.

Remember when you could fit a 4x8 sheet of drywall or plywood in the back of those wagons?
 
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People still tow airstreams with smallish cars, they are one of the easier tows due to the aerodynamics.

Bunch of photos:
Can-Am RV Centre (London, Ontario) ? Canada?s RV dealer for Airstream, Crossroads, DoubleTree, Forest River, Keystone, R-Vision, Nu-Wa, and SunnyBrook.

I lived for a while in Europe while working on a project... I was amazed to see little cars by US standards towing large travel trailers... true, the trailers were light weight... but still a lot of surface area to get blown around.

It became such a problem that many 2 lane mountain passes have severe travel trailer restrictions...
 

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