toolcat bucket locked

[rock3322]

I have not posted here for a while well i had no problems, now i do! Cat has the bucket locked and cant get it unlocked, any ideas??

 

[Xfaxman]

Check the wires on the solenoid valve and the fuse that is in the circuit. Then check the switch if necessary.

What series is your Toolcat?

 

[rock3322]

Not sure what series, its a 06 i believe, cant find wiring diagram on web, dont know where solenoid is, would guess though that if active it would open lift and bucket circuit. Frustrated i cant find info to help me.

 

[ruffdog]

So, your saying that the joystick is locked, as if the safety arm is not lowered?

 

[Xfaxman]

The first four digits of the serial number indicate the series. From an old post by SSdoxie, open it in a new tab to read it:

You can see the parts here: Bobcat Genuine Parts Catalog – Official Bobcat Company site

 

[rock3322]

I believe with arm up park is on not sure about lift lock was wondering that myself. So i can make park come on and off with arm no change on lift lock

 

[rock3322]

There are three wires going to arm safety one is 12v not sure what happens with arm down

 

[Xfaxman]

To fix it yourself you need the service manual that matches your serial number.

For help here, we need to know if it is a 5600 or a 5610 and what series.

 

[rock3322]

It is a 5600

 

[Xfaxman]

What series?

Did you spot the serial number plate?

 

[rock3322]

Have not yet

 

[Jabonee]

I have not posted here for a while well i had no problems, now i do! Cat has the bucket locked and cant get it unlocked, any ideas??

You need to be a little more specific with your description. You lost lift and tilt?? Or you can't get the power Bobtach levers to unlock and remove the bucket from the boom????? :confused3:

 

[rock3322]

I have lost operation of the loader/bucket because the lock button/light is on and will not go off on the dash. This lock can be activated by pushing on or deactivated by pushing off, under normal operations, i cant get it to go off so loader/bucket will not move.

 

[ruffdog]

Do you have any codes?

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/toolcat/232677-toolcat-arm-rest-safety-switch.html

 

[Jabonee]

Do you have any codes?

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/toolcat/232677-toolcat-arm-rest-safety-switch.html

Yes, that would be my next question. When you turn the key on are you getting a single tone(beep)? When you lower the armrest (TICs) are you getting 3 beeps ? If so press and hold the light button after the beeps. A code will be displayed. Drive still working ?? :thumbsup:

 

[rock3322]

Drive is working

 

[rock3322]

I checked to see what series I have and it is a 5205 A Series! I dug a little deeper into it yesterday still don't see the problem but did notice that the joy stick does have hydraulics to it and is not electric there, so there must be a solenoid that becomes active after safety arm goes down, so does anyone know were this solenoid is located?

 

[ruffdog]

Just looking at manual for G series and what "locks" the hydraulic control valve for the joy stick. There is a spool valve for the bucket tilt and one for the lift. When you move the joystick, it pushes or pulls the rods in or out of the spool valves. At the top and side of these valves, there is a small black box with 2 wires for each valve, those are the solenoids that control locking stems for each valve. Basically, the valve rods have a groove in them that a solenoid pushes a pin into to stop the valve rods from moving. So, it seems it takes 2 solenoids to lock both directions (one for each spool valve). I would think that if one solenoid goes bad, you could still move the stick in the other direction. To see this valve, you must take the cover off surrounding the joystick. I'm thinking that if all of a sudden your stick doesn't unlock in either direction, look for what controls those solenoids first. Fuses? Relay? Switch? I hope this helps....

 

[rock3322]

I will look for valves THANKS!

 

[Xfaxman]

I checked to see what series I have and it is a 5205 A Series! I dug a little deeper into it yesterday still don't see the problem but did notice that the joy stick does have hydraulics to it and is not electric there, so there must be a solenoid that becomes active after safety arm goes down, so does anyone know were this solenoid is located?

Does your joystick move with the key off?

On mine with the arm up, the joystick is locked, won't move at all. When you put the arm down, it unlocks.

Here is a snip from the parts list that I referenced in post #5:

You need to trace the voltage to find the problem.

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