Forks Titan Ebay Issues-BEWARE!

[Snobdds]

THE! problem is crooks, not selling venues.

No, the crooks can't be crooks without the venue.

The whole cart without the horse thing...

 

[kantuckid]

I'm not after an argument but that's sort of like blaming the existence of drivers licenses for traffic accidents or deaths? The selling venue is not committing the crime, the criminal is the culprit. These selling venues are spending big bucks to snuff this criminal activity and the sadder aspect is that we as consumers pay the cost in higher price points.
One of my newer rants is that many plastic thieves-the ones who cause you and me to get a new credit card twice a year is they do the gift card thing then cash in. My peeve is these sleezy pawn shops and pay here car lots that have big signs out front saying they'll buy your gift cards-when we know they are buying gift cards bought mostly with stolen CC information!
Now snobdds, you can say the cards are to blame for the thefts, not the thief?
If you want to say there's "wild west" sales venue then start a thread on CL or flea markets. I use CL often and love it but it's a dangerous marketplace if your a noob/ignorant of realities of private sales.
This thread is (was) about thieves posting fictitious merchandise from a company that's popular with value priced tractor attachments for forum members.

 

[JJZ 109]

I wound up buying my Bradco skid steer forks several years ago from a local heavy truck & equipment dealer. At the time, it seems as though they were priced about the same everywhere, whether online or local.
Apparently that isn't the case these days if people are taking days & weeks sifting through ebay & Amazon sellers. I'll spend maybe a day or two shopping in that manner. But generally, when I need something, I need it. I'm not comparison shopping for weeks on end.

 

[kantuckid]

I'm not spending weeks shopping. I do have Titan forks on a price watch and other things to do while I wait for the price to come down, as it does often. I'll only use them around my sawmill which is a non-commercial operation centered on personal needs. If your a buy here and pay what's asked shopper, then go for it. The thread was a helpfully intended scam alert, started by me, not a shopping tutorial for contractors in Ontario. Your PS says it all in this regard...
Where'd you get this days and weeks thing from? Am I a tightwad-absolutely.
I tried a few tractor dealers in my nearby area and all wanted an arm & a leg for a fork set for my tractor. Many dealers these days get pissed if you even act like you might buy online. If I was closer to the place in AL that sells at a great pricepoint but no free shipping, I'd buy there. They also sell on ebay. Meanwhile I can wait, thank you. If it's my deep freeze or transportation that needs a part, the senario changes.

 

[LouNY]

No, the crooks can't be crooks without the venue.

The whole cart without the horse thing...

Kantuckid, you have it right it's the dam*ed crooks that need to be hung, to many people seem to try and blame everything but the the piece of crap that performed the act,
whatever it is.

 

[D2Cat]

No, the crooks can't be crooks without the venue.

The whole cart without the horse thing...

Crook are crooks. They can use Ebay, Amazon, CL or any other tool to find someone to deal with. If all those sources were non-existent they'd come up with another one. They chose what's easiest. They could just come to your door and kick it in...but it's more work and risk!

So if they come to your door and kick it in, is the problem YOU, because you have a home they'd like to rob?

 

[Snobdds]

I'm not spending weeks shopping. I do have Titan forks on a price watch and other things to do while I wait for the price to come down, as it does often. I'll only use them around my sawmill which is a non-commercial operation centered on personal needs. If your a buy here and pay what's asked shopper, then go for it. The thread was a helpfully intended scam alert, started by me, not a shopping tutorial for contractors in Ontario. Your PS says it all in this regard...
Where'd you get this days and weeks thing from? Am I a tightwad-absolutely.
I tried a few tractor dealers in my nearby area and all wanted an arm & a leg for a fork set for my tractor. Many dealers these days get pissed if you even act like you might buy online. If I was closer to the place in AL that sells at a great pricepoint but no free shipping, I'd buy there. They also sell on ebay. Meanwhile I can wait, thank you. If it's my deep freeze or transportation that needs a part, the senario changes.

The easiest place to take your money, under false pretenses, is through a mechanism that allows me to remain unanimous and unambiguous. By the time anyone is non the wiser, they're gone. Ebay is a scammers dream and consumers nightmare. People put up with it because they are thinking there is no other way to get a deal.

Sometimes it's too expensive to be cheap. It's funny that I will not be scammed, because I don't use ebay. Others get scammed and somehow they think it's the scammer and not ebay. The difference between you and I is ebay. This should be simple to see.

Lets see ebay institute a policy where a seller must submit personal identification to sell (SSN for example). Then, it might change.

 

[dfkrug]

Ebay has mostly good people selling stuff like the rest of the marketplace. Feedback information
is easy to read on ebay.

Good posts, KENTUCK. Interesting anecdote about your bad seller.

I have bought and sold 1000s of items on eBay and Craigs. Bought some things over the years on Amazon as well, but
have almost always found prices higher there than from dealers on eBay. I am in my 20th year as an eBay buyer/seller, and
it has gotten much better in terms of fighting seller fraud. Today an eBay seller is much more likely to get screwed by a bad
buyer, vs. a bad seller screwing a buyer, due to eBay's buyer protection mechanisms.

Now that said, I independently saw the same eBay fraudulent sellers of Titan forks, as I was looking to buy a set. They
had minimal feedback, and what feedback there was, was negative. They were as much as $200 less than list
for the product! The maker was at $479, as was Amazon, total cost. It was purchased via Amazon and arrived
yesterday. Looks good!

I have been looking on and off for years for a decent skidsteer pallet fork frame around here for less than
$500, and never found any.

 

[CincyFlyer]

No, the crooks can't be crooks without the venue.

The whole cart without the horse thing...

So, guns create criminals? Criminals are criminals, they exist, they will find a way; there is always commerce, thus always a venue.

 

[Snobdds]

So, guns create criminals? Criminals are criminals, they exist, they will find a way; there is always commerce, thus always a venue.

Were talking about an auction selling venue correct...? Not the the street corner.

Keep the examples to the actual context here.

FOCUS

 

[kantuckid]

Guns is a taboo subject on most any forum. I could say much more on that subject (I just might be an expert on that subject) but will stop there on guns!
Back to ebay. Ebay sellers have requirements that should weed out most bad sellers and ebay does police the ads and messages. You don't just sign up for ebay by placing a bunch of lighthearted , minimal crap on a web form, it's required to have some hard information. Ebay wants their money from sellers, thats a hard and fast fact!
Above is mildly mentioned the bidder/non buyers on ebay. They are far and away the worst aspect of ebay . I don't know if they are kids, stupid adults, or folks with too little to do but it is easy to find ads that say don't bid if you'll not be following through-but they still do it.
I've sold vehicles on ebay-works great! I'm a senior and downsizing on some items from the finds ebay the best place.
Some items I sell locally through a gal I know and she gets all above my price-helps her and saves me time. Some items don't sell well here where there's no money-extremely poor! I sold a commercial appliance dolly on CL yesterday to a man whose the regional mgr for KFC. Heavy to ship on ebay, wont sell locally but easy for me to deliver it to a KFC, collect the money then go out to eat and grocery shop same trip.
I've sold and shipped to every continent except Africa on ebay and I'm just an old guy on a hill in eastern KY, not some big wheeler dealer.
Anyone who doesn't use ebay is also not into some of my hobbies. I also often buy there after comparing a straight web deal to Amazon. I have no idea why price points go up and down from the same sellers on all three web sales venues but they do.
I've redone a number of vintage motorcycles and there is NO!, NADA!, zero!, other venues for those parts or to sell the bikes when it's time to turn one loose or buy another project. An exception is a few dedicated MC forums. When I rebuilt wrecked cars I bought lots of parts on ebay. It was a case of a new part, used via salvage industry or ebay which is used by many commercial parts sellers aside from the biggie- Car-parts.com where most every salvage yard in the country sells parts.
I also buy gun related items there, but firearms themselves are not allowed, period. It's a huge endeavor and those who say it breeds crime are missing that venue, it's that simple. Doesn't mean anyone has to use it or even needs it.
There's an ebay seller in N AL selling tractor attachments, many made in USA too. He uses "skidsteer attachments" if I remember correctly. Has great prices but lacks the free shipping Titan offers. He sells a pallet fork set that fits my FEL QA for $395 plus shipping.
Ebay-don't buy there if the boogeyman lurks there in your dreams... It's a big world out there!
"If I had a nickel" for every web comment that says ebays bad, CL will get you murdered or beware of web CC buys I'd be a lot better off than my teacher retirement check does for us!
Washington DC seems to have lots of street corner sellers. I bought a "Rolex" there one trip for $10. Had a non Rolex quartz movement but was a nice looking watch. I gave it to my high minded nephew for Christmas long ago, now he's a surgeon-he can buy his own junk.

 

[DK35vince]

The easiest place to take your money, under false pretenses, is through a mechanism that allows me to remain unanimous and unambiguous. By the time anyone is non the wiser, they're gone. Ebay is a scammers dream and consumers nightmare. People put up with it because they are thinking there is no other way to get a deal.

Sometimes it's too expensive to be cheap. It's funny that I will not be scammed, because I don't use ebay. Others get scammed and somehow they think it's the scammer and not ebay. The difference between you and I is ebay. This should be simple to see.

Lets see ebay institute a policy where a seller must submit personal identification to sell (SSN for example). Then, it might change.

Wow
You make it sound like Ebay is terrible and a buyers nightmare.
I think its great.
I have bought hundreds of items from Ebay over the years.
I've had maybe 2 or 3 issues where the seller never sent the item.
I contact Ebay or Paypal and I got a full refund, every time.

 

[DieselBound]

I'm within 1,000 miles but their (Everything Attachments) pallet fork set is much higher price point than Titan which has free shipping too. I'm waiting for Titan to renew their sale again @ 10% off on tractor pallet forks. I'll choose their USA built "UA" set as USA matters when available. The forks themselves are made in China, it's only the backplate that's welded in USA but still that;s a local job for someone. I am still a bit pissed that my pallet forks disappeared from my cart (they sold out while item was on sale @ 10% off) on Titans website while I was calling ebay to report the stealers who were fronting Titan's products line!

To save a few bucks. You know, life is pretty short. Sometimes it just ain't worth it. And from the sounds of all this I'm thinking that I'd rather shell out a few more dollars to buy actual peace of mind.

I've never had any issues with Ebay or Craigslist (though on CL there's been a handful of no-show folks). AND, did I mention it here?, I had a large $$ purchase directly from China; I had to vet that the best that I could: I was prepared, however, to write it all off- I kept that mindset right up until I actually saw my shipment.

Ain't no one here going to solve your "problem."

 

[kantuckid]

DieselBound-I fail to get your drift? My "problem" was to mention a coincidence of events that was sort of like the bumper sticker, don't you think? My so-called peace of mind is quite healthy, thank you. I asked nothing of you or others in this thread. I started it to post a warning then I and others chose to converse.

Last night I stumbled onto the fact that Titan was running a "Halloween Sale" on buys over $350 to get $40 off. I bought the UA (USA backplate) pallet forks for my FEL. That's a bit less than the 10% sale i missed out on but thought I better lock up a set rather than wait for a few extra bucks to come off the deal later.
Obviously their "Price Watch" thingy didn't tell me the deal was on, so don't depend on that web function to tell you about sales events.
Still, at $514 delivered, the Titan set is my best deal out there IMO.
It's just a conversation here.
Heads up-the Titan Halloween deal ends 11/1/17