Tires tires in wide stance

[clemsonfor]

Finially swapped them thismourning. I figuried that i would post some pics so that anyone searching this thread can see the before and after in the same perspective on the same tractor.

After fooling at forestry forum adding my pics there (just rememberd that i could put them on this site) to post here. Would be a lot easier if i could just add them from my computer.

-Nate

And me bushhogging?

 

[clemsonfor]

that did not work? Why is this stuff so hard?

 

[clemsonfor]

ok here we go there on this site now.

Narrow stance

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wide stance

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[deepNdirt]

very noticeable, wouldn't it by nice if the rear fenders would move over as well, some of us could use all thr room we can get
Oh! have you reverse the front wheels?

 

[clemsonfor]

no did not even pay them attention?

 

[California]

I've read, and agree, it's not a good idea to reverse the front wheels.

In stock configuration the load is centered between the inner and outer wheel bearings. Reversed, the load is concentrated at the tip of the spindle. Yanmars (and other tractors) occasionally snap off spindles and drop the front corner of the tractor to the ground. On a bad side slope is where the spindle bears the greatest load, and that would be a poor place to break one.

 

[deepNdirt]

I've read, and agree, it's not a good idea to reverse the front wheels.

In stock configuration the load is centered between the inner and outer wheel bearings. Reversed, the load is concentrated at the tip of the spindle. Yanmars (and other tractors) occasionally snap off spindles and drop the front corner of the tractor to the ground. On a bad side slope is where the spindle bears the greatest load, and that would be a poor place to break one.

yes this was a bit of my concern when I installed the extra weight of a FEL
however while no extra weight on the front of the tractor I didn't relize would be that much of a concern, and while now with the FEL on my tractor i can feel the handleing difference when moving the wheels back to stock, it does not feel good when cornering, the wider stance seems to ballance the FEL better, though I do realize I am asking for problems if left this way, I am on the search for some larger wheels that will have center offset/backset,
approx 5 1/2-6" wide x 13"-14" wheel, the kicker on finding these wheels are the wide 5"x 4 bolt pattern, and also the large 3"center hub hole, I may simply have to custom build some wheels using the center plates of these old 12" wheels,.. here is the stance of the front wheels being reversed, Thereare approx. 4 inch wider span, some tractors have wheel weights and cannot reverse the wheels,

 

[MJPetersen]

You really do not gain mush by reversing the wheels and you increase the stress on stressed parts tremendously. Let me explain. since the front axle is designed to rock back and forth--if it did not we would be running around with one wheel in the air most of the time as very few places are perfectly flat. I do not know the angle that the front axle hits the stops, but until it does there is no "increase in stability." Hitting the stops is already exceeding my comfort zone!

The perceived increase in stability may come from the aggressive positive behavior when turning. This is caused by the increase in the angles caused by increased distance the tire is from the pivoting point. This increased angles also multiplies the forces on the tire, wheel, steering components and, perhaps most importantly, the spindle itself. It is not the straight down load that will kill the spindle it is the increased angle and side stresses that will break things.

Just my opinion.

Mike

 

[California]

Sort of relevant:

I don't know what the previous owner did to break these front wheels but he made a mess of them. And one is a replacement obviously salvaged off another Yanmar. It still shows "$25.00" written on it.

I was told this tractor was used for mucking out riding stable stalls for its first 10-15 years. Maybe the owner kept sliding into curbs or something.

I've had the steering wheel wrenched out of my hands a few times which I thought might at least bend these patched wheels, if not crack them again.

I bought a pair of replacement wheels so I'm ready if one of these cracks. But so far, six years, I haven't needed to use them.

 

[deepNdirt]

OK---> Front wheels reversed = will break tractor got-cha!