Two things.First off,I would like to know about weighted tires(how it's done,any maintenance etc.)and second, the "IN THE FIELD" difference between "Turf" and "Ag" tires.I have areas that have soft spots but overall my ground is pretty solid.Which is the better tire? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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BigAl
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Weighted or loaded tires usally have water/antifreeze or a water/calcium cholride mix . I have never seen them filled as my dealer performed the sevice for me as part of my tractor purchase .
As far as tire selection , I have R-4 tires and find them to be a great all around tire . They are wide and have a nice tread pattern . They do not cause as much damage to lawns /pastures as ag tires do .Ag tires are the most aggressive and are usually used more in the farming industry , but they do provide the best traction . Turf tires are used more in the golf course / lawn care industry and leave little damage to grass . They also can bridge soft stops but provide little traction .
For me personally , I would not use anything but R-4 tires ,but again it fits my application of my tractors uses very well .If I was strickly farming ,I might go to the ag tires .
Hope this helps,
Big Al
As far as tire selection , I have R-4 tires and find them to be a great all around tire . They are wide and have a nice tread pattern . They do not cause as much damage to lawns /pastures as ag tires do .Ag tires are the most aggressive and are usually used more in the farming industry , but they do provide the best traction . Turf tires are used more in the golf course / lawn care industry and leave little damage to grass . They also can bridge soft stops but provide little traction .
For me personally , I would not use anything but R-4 tires ,but again it fits my application of my tractors uses very well .If I was strickly farming ,I might go to the ag tires .
Hope this helps,
Big Al
DK35vince
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I agree with Al.
All field work (maximum traction) Ag's
All lawn work (least traction) Turfs
I do a combination of both so I went with R-4's
All field work (maximum traction) Ag's
All lawn work (least traction) Turfs
I do a combination of both so I went with R-4's
NIXON
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The other posts have covered the tires well .
But the reason I went with R4's is that they are a bit "thicker skinned " . For my use that seemed to be a must have .
Basically my property is what you might call unimproved . There are some places that are hard to walk through let alone drive . So I wanted a fairly puncture resistant tire . To offset the traction difference between the r1's and r4's I went with chains for mud and ice or snow . John
But the reason I went with R4's is that they are a bit "thicker skinned " . For my use that seemed to be a must have .
Basically my property is what you might call unimproved . There are some places that are hard to walk through let alone drive . So I wanted a fairly puncture resistant tire . To offset the traction difference between the r1's and r4's I went with chains for mud and ice or snow . John
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GerardC
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I agree with Al.
All field work (maximum traction) Ag's
All lawn work (least traction) Turfs
I do a combination of both so I went with R-4's )</font>
I also would be doing a combination,but don't know what the "R-4's" look like.Some webs show "AG" "TURF" and "IND" with the pictures.Is the R-4 a new tire or am I just not looking in the right place? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
All field work (maximum traction) Ag's
All lawn work (least traction) Turfs
I do a combination of both so I went with R-4's )</font>
I also would be doing a combination,but don't know what the "R-4's" look like.Some webs show "AG" "TURF" and "IND" with the pictures.Is the R-4 a new tire or am I just not looking in the right place? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
clundog
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R-4 / IND = Same Tire /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
clundog
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I know the IND and Turf tires usually cost more however I don't think there is alot of difference in price, I think it kind of depends on your dealer! I'm in the process of buying a Mahindra 2615 and you can chose any tire, same price. Sorry I couldn't be more specific on $.
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Rivera Machinery in Donna, Texas give me my choice of tires styles with no price difference on my Kioti DK45.
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TomK
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Ok, this looks like a good place to jump in. I'm getting a 3054XS, hopfully pick it up next week. The dealer did not recomend R4 tires because of there performance in the snow and mud. He dosn't stock them because he sells tractors in the mountains of Colorado and he feels they are usless in the snow. He will order them for me, but he wants cash up front first. How do you Northeners and Mountainiers feel about R4's in the snow? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
clundog
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"How do you Northeners and Mountainers feel about R4's in the snow?"
Don't think I qualify for either of the above, but I'll put in my two cents worth any way! Personally if you're in deep heavy wet snow ag tires are probably best, R-4's 2nd, Turf last. However that being said I also feel that weight comes into play here, because if you've ever been on hard packed snow, driveway etc.. a light weight machine isn't very good no matter what tire is on it. I ordered mine with R-4's because I wanted a little better traction when operating the FEL but also didn't want something that would tear up the yard when i drove across it. Different circumstances for everything. Hopefully I helped some, good luck!
Don't think I qualify for either of the above, but I'll put in my two cents worth any way! Personally if you're in deep heavy wet snow ag tires are probably best, R-4's 2nd, Turf last. However that being said I also feel that weight comes into play here, because if you've ever been on hard packed snow, driveway etc.. a light weight machine isn't very good no matter what tire is on it. I ordered mine with R-4's because I wanted a little better traction when operating the FEL but also didn't want something that would tear up the yard when i drove across it. Different circumstances for everything. Hopefully I helped some, good luck!
pilonidal
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I'm no expert, and haven't gotten my tractor yet, but I've been looking around for the same answer to. I will be getting turf for my ck20 mainly for lawn purposes but some occasional FEL and grunt work Seen some sites where guys complain about R-4's and no traction in mud. I think they are only marginally better than turf when you look at the wide flat tread bar on the R-4. Make the bars .25 inch wider and you practicly have a slick. In snow I see no difference at all between the two or three tires. Snow/ice pretty much levels the playing field. Chains will probably be needed if you are pushing big snow piles. 4WD should keep me out of trouble for my small jobs. Those Ag tires will grip in and tear things up, but if thats not an issue, oh well. My 2 cents worth. Don't know about the dealer not ordering R-4's though. Must be a know it all. His way or you pay for it type of guy. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
lablovers
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TomK,
Congrats on the 3054. I just received mine on Friday and have about 3 1/2 hours of work on it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif You are going to love it. It has already amazed me at what it can acomplish.
I am in the West, foothill/mtn, area and most dealers all put R4's on them. Maybe a Tim Taylor thing but I like the beef and on the 3054 it give a little wider footprint. If tractions is a problem, then chains might be an option.
Good luck and let me know how your 3054 works out. This is going to be a long week for you. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Lablovers
Congrats on the 3054. I just received mine on Friday and have about 3 1/2 hours of work on it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif You are going to love it. It has already amazed me at what it can acomplish.
I am in the West, foothill/mtn, area and most dealers all put R4's on them. Maybe a Tim Taylor thing but I like the beef and on the 3054 it give a little wider footprint. If tractions is a problem, then chains might be an option.
Good luck and let me know how your 3054 works out. This is going to be a long week for you. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Lablovers
TomK
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I'm trying to decide if I want them just because the look cooler or for more functional reasons. I'm going to be knocking down a lot of scrub oak and it's pretty tough stuff to drive over. I thought the R4's would take the beating better.
