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March 7, 2021 – Troy Grice of Groveton, Texas, was indicted on February 25, 2021, by a grand jury in Jasper County on the charge of Timber Purchase as Trustee with Intent to Defraud. Grice is charged with defrauding a Jasper County landowner of between $20,000 and $100,000 worth of timber – a felony of the third degree.

Timber theft can take a variety of forms – from harvesting timber without the landowner’s knowledge or consent, to entering into a formal agreement, harvesting a landowners timber, and then not paying them the full purchase price.
“The past few years we have seen an increase in Timber Fraud cases. Most of these cases started off with a legitimate contract, but then the landowner only receives partial payment, or no payment at all,” said Josh Mizrany, Investigator with Texas A&M Forest Service Law Enforcement Department.

Grice, 49, entered into a timber harvesting agreement through his company Apex Timber with a Jasper county landowner in January of 2019 to harvest 314 acres of their timber. The harvest was halted by the landowner in April of 2019, after delinquent payments started occurring, and the landowner reached out to Texas A&M Forest Service law enforcement for help.

Texas A&M Forest Service Law Enforcement are subject matter experts on the Texas Natural Resource Code, which is designed to protect landowners.

“The Texas Natural Resource Code has a section which states that money collected from timber is trust money,” said Mizrany. “And if the trustee of that money doesn’t pay all of the beneficiaries for the timber within 45 days of the timber being sold, that person has committed the offense of timber fraud.”

Once the Texas A&M Forest Service Law Enforcement Department was notified of the unpaid balance, they began investigating the case. Through their investigation, Texas A&M Forest Service was able to verify that Grice had not paid all of the trust money owed to the landowner.

Grice was arrested under warrant on March 5, 2020, in Trinity County. The case was turned in to District Attorney Anne Pickle, who brought the case before a grand jury. After hearing testimonies, the grand jury decided that there was probable cause for Grice to be charged with a felony of the third degree.

Meanwhile, Mizrany can’t stress enough the importance of involving Texas A&M Forest Service in any case of suspected timber fraud or timber theft.
“If you go into an agreement with a timber harvesting company and payment has stopped, or you’re not receiving all of the revenue that you’re owed—that they’ve contractually agreed to—it’s important to notify the Texas A&M Forest Service law enforcement department right away,” said Mizrany.

If you are unfamiliar with selling timber, you are urged to contact your local Texas A&M Forest Service office. Our field staff will assist you with securing the assistance of a professional resource manager to help select trees for harvest, estimate values and find potential buyers.
For more information, visit Wildfires and Disasters | TIMBER THEFT, REPORT IT AND HELP PREVENT IT! TFS
Or to report suspected timber theft activities, call the timber theft hotline at 1-800-364-3470.

 
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March 7, 2021 – Troy Grice of Groveton, Texas, was indicted on February 25, 2021, by a grand jury in Jasper County on the charge of Timber Purchase as Trustee with Intent to Defraud. Grice is charged with defrauding a Jasper County landowner of between $20,000 and $100,000 worth of timber – a felony of the third degree.

Timber theft can take a variety of forms – from harvesting timber without the landowner’s knowledge or consent, to entering into a formal agreement, harvesting a landowners timber, and then not paying them the full purchase price.
“The past few years we have seen an increase in Timber Fraud cases. Most of these cases started off with a legitimate contract, but then the landowner only receives partial payment, or no payment at all,” said Josh Mizrany, Investigator with Texas A&M Forest Service Law Enforcement Department.

Grice, 49, entered into a timber harvesting agreement through his company Apex Timber with a Jasper county landowner in January of 2019 to harvest 314 acres of their timber. The harvest was halted by the landowner in April of 2019, after delinquent payments started occurring, and the landowner reached out to Texas A&M Forest Service law enforcement for help.

Texas A&M Forest Service Law Enforcement are subject matter experts on the Texas Natural Resource Code, which is designed to protect landowners.

“The Texas Natural Resource Code has a section which states that money collected from timber is trust money,” said Mizrany. “And if the trustee of that money doesn’t pay all of the beneficiaries for the timber within 45 days of the timber being sold, that person has committed the offense of timber fraud.”

Once the Texas A&M Forest Service Law Enforcement Department was notified of the unpaid balance, they began investigating the case. Through their investigation, Texas A&M Forest Service was able to verify that Grice had not paid all of the trust money owed to the landowner.

Grice was arrested under warrant on March 5, 2020, in Trinity County. The case was turned in to District Attorney Anne Pickle, who brought the case before a grand jury. After hearing testimonies, the grand jury decided that there was probable cause for Grice to be charged with a felony of the third degree.

Meanwhile, Mizrany can’t stress enough the importance of involving Texas A&M Forest Service in any case of suspected timber fraud or timber theft.
“If you go into an agreement with a timber harvesting company and payment has stopped, or you’re not receiving all of the revenue that you’re owed—that they’ve contractually agreed to—it’s important to notify the Texas A&M Forest Service law enforcement department right away,” said Mizrany.

If you are unfamiliar with selling timber, you are urged to contact your local Texas A&M Forest Service office. Our field staff will assist you with securing the assistance of a professional resource manager to help select trees for harvest, estimate values and find potential buyers.
For more information, visit Wildfires and Disasters | TIMBER THEFT, REPORT IT AND HELP PREVENT IT! TFS
Or to report suspected timber theft activities, call the timber theft hotline at 1-800-364-3470.


This is very interesting. So a public university in Texas has a law enforcement operation off campus and for the entire state? Never heard of such an arrangement.

Im surprised at some point A&M didn’t go arrest all the Longhorn folks!!!

MoKelly
 
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Pretty interesting system
 
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Getting ripped off by the Forestry Cutting Industry has been a pretty much established fact around here as long as I can remember.

My Dad once made the acquaintence of such people, back in the 70s, who also sidelined in ARSON! I attended the trial. They were never convicted in our local case due to lack of evidence. INTERPOL was investigating them as well!
 
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This is very interesting. So a public university in Texas has a law enforcement operation off campus and for the entire state? Never heard of such an arrangement.

Im surprised at some point A&M didn’t go arrest all the Longhorn folks!!!

MoKelly
That does seem to be a unique arrangement. They seem to be involved in a lot of things besides teaching...
The Texas A&M University System is one of the largest systems of higher education in the nation with a budget of $6.3 billion. The System is a statewide network of 11 universities; a comprehensive health science center; eight state agencies, including the Texas Division of Emergency Management; and the RELLIS Campus. The Texas A&M System educates more than 151,000 students and makes more than 22 million additional educational contacts through service and outreach programs each year. System-wide, research and development expenditures exceeded $1 billion in FY 2019 and helped drive the state’s economy.

 
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Thieves come in all trades. Grrrrr....
Had someone come on my posted property and cut down a 40’ cedar tree and took the top ~5’. Maybe for a Christmas tree? Couldn’t believe it. Tree was close to the road, can’t see it from the house but they probably could see my house from it when they were cutting. Only have 10-15 good cedar trees on the 30 acres. Was more than a little upset.
 
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Had someone come on my posted property and cut down a 40’ cedar tree and took the top ~5’. Maybe for a Christmas tree? Couldn’t believe it. Tree was close to the road, can’t see it from the house but they probably could see my house from it when they were cutting. Only have 10-15 good cedar trees on the 30 acres. Was more than a little upset.

I would expect you would be.
 
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Had someone come on my posted property and cut down a 40’ cedar tree and took the top ~5’. Maybe for a Christmas tree? Couldn’t believe it. Tree was close to the road, can’t see it from the house but they probably could see my house from it when they were cutting. Only have 10-15 good cedar trees on the 30 acres. Was more than a little upset.
We see stuff like that all of the time, but it's a different economy of scale. I've even had people say that "We like to steal white birch off your land because the tourists like it for firewood."
 
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We have those types around here also,state towns talk BIG story about coming down hard on thieves but end up giving them slap on the wrist. :rolleyes:
 
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I know a prof at a&m, genetic engineering. Quite a place. He said he can grow 8 legs on a hog, lots of ham there.

My nephew started at QB for them a while back but no more details except.......

You should see the locker room.....is there something better than 5 star?

I own a tree farm so I have heard lots of nasty stories about loggers and the lies and the mess they leave.

I don't really own the trees anyway, i'm just taking care of them for a while.
 
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I know a prof at a&m, genetic engineering. Quite a place. He said he can grow 8 legs on a hog, lots of ham there.

My nephew started at QB for them a while back but no more details except.......

You should see the locker room.....is there something better than 5 star?

I own a tree farm so I have heard lots of nasty stories about loggers and the lies and the mess they leave.

I don't really own the trees anyway, i'm just taking care of them for a while.

Johnny Football?

MoKelly
 
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Similar problems around here as well.

I sold some timber and every logging truck that left, i took a picture of the truck and stamp. Got some hard looks but i got paid in full.
 
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Similar problems around here as well.

I sold some timber and every logging truck that left, i took a picture of the truck and stamp. Got some hard looks but i got paid in full.

Sometimes you have to look out for yourself.
 
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No different (around here) than getting a load of something on a dump truck. Climb up, take a look and ASK QUESTIONS. he people not asking any questions are gonna be the first to get fleeced.
 
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I sold 31 black walnut trees after buying my 19 acres in Michigan. Contract looked pretty legitimate but had a couple vague terms. I had my questions about them answered verbally, and got a nice handshake and smile to seal the deal. You can guess what happened next.
$2500 in new "cutting expenses" appeared after harvest. Numbers were all cooked to make it seem like little profit was to be had. I got my guarantee pay amount (about 40%) and then they pretended there was nothing to share above that. Had to threaten to sue in small claims court to get up to 50% of the proceeds. Dude acted like I was some sort of snake to dare expect to be paid the fair contractual amount for my trees. He burned his own bridge, too, since the harvest went well, minimal mess, quick and on time, and I was going to hire them back again in 10 years for another select cut. Now, no way.
 
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Had an elderly neighbor who got fleeced for clearing 5 acres of trees under the agreement that they simply be “gone” as they were full maturity and a few fell & blocked her driveway & some too close to the home. Well, they took only the trunks and left slash right where they lay.

Managed to contact area sawmills and one foreman recognized the guy responsible do he drove out to see for himself and was livid. He got on the phone while in his truck to several people and came out to tell the lady that he and the other sawmill operators have decided not to do business with him any longer and apologized but he couldn’t do anything about the slash. He also said he is holding payment for the wood already delivered until it was resolved. Guy simply skipped town and the sawmill gave her the proceeds instead and I cleared up the slash (took a week) for her. Got a box of chocolates shipped from her when I turned down compensation since I told her I was actually having fun doing seat time anyway.

She now turns to me for advice and I happily obliged to look after her after her husband, a CIA Cold War veteran, has passed a year prior. I got to see the mementos and heard his stories. I was in awe of this guy, he makes 007 blush!
 
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Had an elderly neighbor who got fleeced for clearing 5 acres of trees under the agreement that they simply be “gone” as they were full maturity and a few fell & blocked her driveway & some too close to the home. Well, they took only the trunks and left slash right where they lay.

Managed to contact area sawmills and one foreman recognized the guy responsible do he drove out to see for himself and was livid. He got on the phone while in his truck to several people and came out to tell the lady that he and the other sawmill operators have decided not to do business with him any longer and apologized but he couldn’t do anything about the slash. He also said he is holding payment for the wood already delivered until it was resolved. Guy simply skipped town and the sawmill gave her the proceeds instead and I cleared up the slash (took a week) for her. Got a box of chocolates shipped from her when I turned down compensation since I told her I was actually having fun doing seat time anyway.

She now turns to me for advice and I happily obliged to look after her after her husband, a CIA Cold War veteran, has passed a year prior. I got to see the mementos and heard his stories. I was in awe of this guy, he makes 007 blush!
It was good you could step in and help her.
 
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Many business have their own little or big way to maximize profits. I was once at a butcher I spoke with at length. Ordered some T-Bones and I asked why he left a strip of white fat on the meat. He just grinned and said "PROFIT".
 

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