This is what can happen

[Diamondpilot]

Curious what gear you have in that truck? Seems to me like a 3.08 or a 3.42 would be better on the ice.

Chris

 

[turbo660]

Did anybody try the race with the traction ctrl on?

how much wheel spin did you let happen? or was it
the key, not to let it happen,,,

Funny you ask there was a salesman from a local car dealer that ran a 2007 Envoy Denali (right of the lot, dealer plates on, sticker still in the window) and left the traction control on and you could watch the wheels spin independently searching for traction.

Yes it was key to prevent wheel spin. The very thing many guys missed.

 

[turbo660]

Curious what gear you have in that truck? Seems to me like a 3.08 or a 3.42 would be better on the ice.

Chris

3.42s, though I'm not sure how much differance it makes when the driver has to control throttle input

 

[Dutch445]

All about the tires here,

 

[turbo660]

All about the tires here,

Yes, except for the other two identical trucks I beet in the last two rounds.

 

[Dutch445]

both with BRAND new tires?

(and obviously you knew the key was
no spin)

 

[turbo660]

both with BRAND new tires?

(and obviously you knew the key was
no spin)

within a thousand miles or so.

 

[turbo660]

I will say that lane choice can make a big differance, which I won all 5 times

 

[Dutch445]

so, you had the same lane each time, which wasn't
getting the wheel spin (like the other), which kept
your traction up every run. I can imagine the other lane
was getting more and more slick as each person spun
out, maybe,
either way, congrats, sounds like you had some fun
on the ice and got a nice shiny reward!

 

[turbo660]

so, you had the same lane each time, which wasn't
getting the wheel spin (like the other), which kept
your traction up every run. I can imagine the other lane
was getting more and more slick as each person spun
out, maybe,
either way, congrats, sounds like you had some funon the ice and got a nice shiny reward!

That I did.

Surprising thing was is that the other lane started pulling more winners later on.

 

[Dutch445]

the only thing I ever did close to that was I used to live
on a small lake, and in the winter we would set up the
radar gun and all run our sleds and see how fast we could go,
nothing was marked out for mileage, just go down to the other
end and GO!
I got 96 on my sled,, and a bunch were breaking 100...
that's fast!
I can't imagine what they do today, this was about 10 years
ago when i did it.

 

[slowzuki]

Wagon drawbars don't put any weight on your truck to increase your traction. Most pull sleds hitches angle down and load the tires. Unless you pile the truck up with load too, you usually can't do too much damage as it just spins.

So do the wagons and trailers. :laughing:

 

[dodge man]

My new Challenger has a 0-60 timer built in it. I used to think some tire spin was good, but it turns out you get the best times with minimal spin, which is hard to do sometimes. I imagine on ice, its like walking a tight rope with the throttle.

On a race track, I'd guess your truck would turn a 15 to 16 second 1/4 mile, but that is pure guess work on my part.

 

[blueriver]

One time deal ... or will you be there next year !!

 

[slowzuki]

We used to have unstudded snowmobile ice drags, I had an old beater 250 cc sled with a buggered clutch. I would beat the pack every time as the sled had no power and the clutch would engage at such low rpm, no track spin even on ice. I would be at top speed in no time then would just watch them coming after me. The bigger sleds clutched for performance were terrible on ice without studs. Sometimes couldn't even break their carbide runners free!

My new Challenger has a 0-60 timer built in it. I used to think some tire spin was good, but it turns out you get the best times with minimal spin, which is hard to do sometimes. I imagine on ice, its like walking a tight rope with the throttle.

On a race track, I'd guess your truck would turn a 15 to 16 second 1/4 mile, but that is pure guess work on my part.

 

[Diamondpilot]

3.42s, though I'm not sure how much differance it makes when the driver has to control throttle input

True. It would be easier to manage the torque on a 3.08 geared truck versus a 3.73 geared truck if everything else was equal.

Either way you are a good driver because that is what it takes to win.

We have a 04 Powerstroke F-250 that was putting down about 500HP and 700FT TQ but weighed 7,500#. I have since de-tuned it some but I took it to the track a few times. I could smoke them 1/2 way down the track but once I learned the secret I could turn in high 13's with it consistently at about 100 mph.

It had enough power to break the back end loose at 60mph on the highway but learning how to feather the throttle was the key.

Good job on the win and once again. Driver skill was 90% of the battle here and you had that down.

Chris

 

[orezok]

In a previous life I went to the drags in Abilene Texas. They had run what ya brung in brackets.

There was a guy who had a 53 Buick, straight 8 with slush-a-matic that won almost every week.

The thing was totally gutless but it would run within a couple hundreds every run.

It was funny to see when the light went green, a person could outrun him for the first 50 yards. I think it was even more unnerving for the other driver had to wait up to 5 or 6 seconds before his light went green. They really mixed up the classes and some times he went up against gassers.

Lotsa red lights.

 

[turbo660]

One time deal ... or will you be there next year !!

I just might have to be.

 

[turbo660]

My new Challenger has a 0-60 timer built in it. I used to think some tire spin was good, but it turns out you get the best times with minimal spin, which is hard to do sometimes. I imagine on ice, its like walking a tight rope with the throttle. On a race track, I'd guess your truck would turn a 15 to 16 second 1/4 mile, but that is pure guess work on my part.

Off the line was the most difficult, once your moving you just had to try and keep accelerating at a steady pace.

What made it real interesting, was trying to keep it straight over the rough ice, kind of like a rough gravel road but with less grip.

As for 15 to 16 sec 1/4 mile, now I have something to shoot for. I'll keep you posted.