Thermostart

[Ginormous]

So, I understand from the Operator's Manual that a feature called 'Thermostart' is an option on my tractor. How do I tell if I actually have it?

 

[stormpetrel]

So, I understand from the Operator's Manual that a feature called 'Thermostart' is an option on my tractor. How do I tell if I actually have it?

You'll notice a small translucent plastic cup with lid mounted in the air toward the front of your engine. You fill it with diesel. turn the key to the left for 10-15 seconds, engage the compression release to get the engine spinning fast when you turn the key, let go of the compression release once the engine is turning over fast, and hopefully, she fires up on them cold days!!!

If you can't tell, or are unsure, I can post a photo.......

 

[Ginormous]

Storm -- if you could post a picture, that would be great.

This is my first diesal engine; do I need to consider a block heater for starting her up in the winter? It gets pretty chilly here in Ohio in January.

 

[winston1]

Storm probably has a better picture but here is one on my 2002. The ts on the ignition switch stands for thermal start. The red light to the left of the switch lights up when the thermo start is active. Yours may or may not have this.

 

[stormpetrel]

Storm -- if you could post a picture, that would be great.

This is my first diesal engine; do I need to consider a block heater for starting her up in the winter? It gets pretty chilly here in Ohio in January.

Here's how it looks on the 2210. Hope it helps.....

 

[Ginormous]

Yes, very helpful, thanks! BTW, I don't have one...

 

[winston1]

If Aaron is right you can have one if you want it. Might check and make sure you have that opening on the intake. Yanmar Tractor Parts: GLOW PLUG (THERMOSTART) KIT - NEW!

 

[Ginormous]

If Aaron is right you can have one if you want it. Might check and make sure you have that opening on the intake. Yanmar Tractor Parts: GLOW PLUG (THERMOSTART) KIT - NEW!

Winston1 -- thanks, good to know. Does the TS make all the difference for starting when it's 0 degrees out?

 

[flyingcow]

A block heater or Katz heater is a nice thing to add for cold starting. IMO, it's a better option than a thermostart. Up here in the north, on the coldest of days, only needs to be plugged in for a couple of hours. Never used my thermostart.

But I have left equipment plugged in all night because I was getting up early.

 

[winston1]

Don't have a clue about 0 degrees outside. All I know is it works good at about 25 degrees. Brrrrrr!

 

[Ginormous]

I used to know a guy who came to the US from Nigeria (Africa) when he was about 19. He had NEVER seen temperatures below the 60s, and that was the dead of winter at night. Well, he came to the US in January and he arrived in the city where his brother lived... which just happened to be Detroit, Michigan. His brother had warned him that it was cold, so he wore the warmest clothes he owned. That is, he wore a cardigan sweater that buttoned up the front. His brother met him in the airport terminal and offered to let him use his coat -- it was 10 degrees and snowing -- but he assured his brother that he would be fine. They had to go outside to get to his brother's car They had some trouble finding it, so it took a while. He told me that he literally thought he was going to die.

 

[flyingcow]

Don't have a clue about 0 degrees outside. All I know is it works good at about 25 degrees. Brrrrrr!

Get time, come on up in mid to late January. Not uncommon to see -40f. Thems the nights you leave stuff plugged in.:thumbsup:

 

[winston1]

Get time, come on up in mid to late January. Not uncommon to see -40f. Thems the nights you leave stuff plugged in.:thumbsup:

I think I'd rather come up in July!

 

[flyingcow]

I think I'd rather come up in July!

But thats blackfly season. It's way too hot also, gets up into the 80's sometimes 90's. We call in the National Guard if the temp approaches 100.

 

[BC Dave]

The TS has 2 components; the diesel bowl that feeds the TS plug; the TS plug that opperates via a valve that drips diesel onto an electric heating coil that ignites the desil.

You may see black smoke & even flames coming out of the exaust. This helps in colder temps to start along with the compression release and a block heater if you have it.

The block heater helps warm the engine oil but draws lots of power; 400W (?); it takes a couple of hours for the block heater to warm the block; the most efficient way to use them is on a timmer system; so If you want the engine to be warm at 7am; set the timer for 5 am. The manual recommends a B Heater under 32F (0C).

My Thermal Valve had the electrical wires knoked off so it wasnt opperationa when I got it; this is typical, also the electric heating coil is knowen to burn out....

.... my 2 cents of summary understanding. Cheers a BC D

 

[Car Doc]

I am glad I have the thermostart and I use it I also have a 400w block heater also which is the best imho and only about an hour is necessary @ 20 F.

A lot of these little diesels dont have a soft plug or a way to install one I got lucky and had a soft plug where it was handy to put one in.

I personally think glow plugs may have been a better solution arguably but it is what it is the solution Yanmar gave us.