The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

[case580c]

Re: The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

Well, in that case you can see from my photos that a narrow grapple is visible from the operator station when coming in contact with the ground. Honestly, once you get used to it you can be pretty accurate without even looking. Close is good for horse shoes, grenades and grapples. Doesn't usually matter that much if you start scraping up brush a foot or so before the pile and the same holds true for root digging.

Yes, but what about Logs that are stacked and I need to get right between 2 of them to slide grapple teeth under one and just above the lower one ? I don't want to come across as a nervous nellie.

I am a pretty good operator Dozers, Backhoes, Loaders. Had to dig out many 4 to 5' Rocks out of large piles had to know just where the cutting edge was as so ya could get between the stones and unwedge them to get it in your bucket.

I spoke to Don at WR Long, he suggested the OBG 1, as my tractor M5140 is 52hp with 2646 lbs lift capacity 31.5" forward to 59" height) is kinda right in the middle bit large for the OBG 2 and not really big for the OBG1.
The OBG1 - 64 is 166 lbs heavier than the OBG2 - 64, "Yes, Don suggested the 64 inch" its 490 lbs. I will also look at the Wicked For Mega Compact and Utility Tractors, Also my tractor's weight with it's existing ballast is aprox 10K I know it pulls in 4wheel as well as my Case 580C backhoe with only 2 wheel drive.

 

[JW 31635]

Millonzi but it was back in 2005. John Millonzi the owner died a few years later and the company (in Cleveland as I recall) almost immediately went out of business. They were one of the first grapple makers to really focus on CUTs (after WRLong) and one of the first to sell direct to consumer. They sold a bunch of the 48 and 60" models to guys here on TBN before going out of business. No complaints.

No way you should need to pay $2300 for a decent grapple. Even EA, which is premium priced, sells a perfectly fine grapple for around $1500-$2000 depending on model. Titan sells for way less than $2k also. $1000 for true third function installed is about right but if you want to save $$$ just run some hoses between your rear remotes and the grapple. I did that on my first tractor and liked it every bit as much as a diverter valve set up from WRLong. Costs about $150 to do the rear remote thing. Just fittings and hoses.

Thanks for your reply, Sir. You are 100% correct about diverters. A lot of hookups on other equipment I have had were that way. You just need to be familiar with the operation, and when that habit is formed, you will have it. As an example on some cars reverse (manual transmission) is located differently than on others. Once familiar, you can find it when it is dark.

 

[JW 31635]

Any comments on this one? Wallace Attachments series I tractor grapple root rake attachment

 

[4570Man]

Re: The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

Yes, but what about Logs that are stacked and I need to get right between 2 of them to slide grapple teeth under one and just above the lower one ? I don't want to come across as a nervous nellie.

I am a pretty good operator Dozers, Backhoes, Loaders. Had to dig out many 4 to 5' Rocks out of large piles had to know just where the cutting edge was as so ya could get between the stones and unwedge them to get it in your bucket.

I spoke to Don at WR Long, he suggested the OBG 1, as my tractor M5140 is 52hp with 2646 lbs lift capacity 31.5" forward to 59" height) is kinda right in the middle bit large for the OBG 2 and not really big for the OBG1.
The OBG1 - 64 is 166 lbs heavier than the OBG2 - 64, "Yes, Don suggested the 64 inch" its 490 lbs. I will also look at the Wicked For Mega Compact and Utility Tractors, Also my tractor's weight with it's existing ballast is aprox 10K I know it pulls in 4wheel as well as my Case 580C backhoe with only 2 wheel drive.

I think a narrow grapple would be better in that instance. That's hard to do if the logs aren't parallel to the grapple. A narrow grapple would lessen the room for error. A high clamping force would be even better. The high clamping force grapple on the CTL at work can easily lift most logs with the log gripped about the top 1/2 of the log. Most tractor grapples are hopeless trying to lift a log on gripping force alone gripping above the 1/2 way point.

 

[Threepoint]

Any comments on this one? Wallace Attachments series I tractor grapple root rake attachment

Welcome to TBN, John. I saw in another post that you're thinking of getting a Kubota L3901 HST. The grapple you link to is very heavy, 645 lbs in a 60" width, 700 lbs in a 72". You'd be giving up a lot of lifting capacity, as well as tractor handling and maneuverability, for no gain, in my opinion. I think you'd be much happier with something in the 400 to 450 lb range for that size tractor, for less money.

For example, I run a 60" Wicked Root Grapple, dual lid, on my 45 Hp tractor, 430 lbs, about $2,000. Compact Tractor Dual Lid Wicked Root Grapple from Everything Attachments

There are other makes, as well.

 

[IslandTractor]

Re: The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

Yes, but what about Logs that are stacked and I need to get right between 2 of them to slide grapple teeth under one and just above the lower one ? I don't want to come across as a nervous nellie.

I am a pretty good operator Dozers, Backhoes, Loaders. Had to dig out many 4 to 5' Rocks out of large piles had to know just where the cutting edge was as so ya could get between the stones and unwedge them to get it in your bucket.

I spoke to Don at WR Long, he suggested the OBG 1, as my tractor M5140 is 52hp with 2646 lbs lift capacity 31.5" forward to 59" height) is kinda right in the middle bit large for the OBG 2 and not really big for the OBG1.
The OBG1 - 64 is 166 lbs heavier than the OBG2 - 64, "Yes, Don suggested the 64 inch" its 490 lbs. I will also look at the Wicked For Mega Compact and Utility Tractors, Also my tractor's weight with it's existing ballast is aprox 10K I know it pulls in 4wheel as well as my Case 580C backhoe with only 2 wheel drive.

Just for perspective, my tractor is a Kioti DK40se. 40hp and a loader that lifts 2760 lbs at pp. Not sure of the weight but I often have a nine foot BH for ballast so I’d guess around 8000lb or so. My grapple weighs about 300lbs and has 3/8” mild steel tines and 1/4” square tube. I’ve used it aggressively for ten years and it is still going strong.

 

[case580c]

Re: The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

Just for perspective, my tractor is a Kioti DK40se. 40hp and a loader that lifts 2760 lbs at pp. Not sure of the weight but I often have a nine foot BH for ballast so I’d guess around 8000lb or so. My grapple weighs about 300lbs and has 3/8” mild steel tines and 1/4” square tube. I’ve used it aggressively for ten years and it is still going strong.

IslandTractor Thanks for the info I am getting a better understanding each day with the help of those on this site and other tractornet forums. I assume PP is the Bucket pivot point? Yes our tractors are similar, Could you please remind me of the grapple your are using? Thanks

 

[k0ua]

Here is an idea. I wish my outer tines had fangs, an extension, a spade or blade that could be attached and removed or pivoted out of the way. The spade would be used for busting out Bear Grass, you may know it as Indian Basket Grass, or other pesky shrubs. By extending the spade forward of the grapple, it would not be necessary to bury six feet of grapple into the ground to pluck out one undesirable plant.

The Wicked does a good job of breaking out tough vegetation, but it is unnecessarily wide in many instances. A grubbing blade attachment, please.

Did you see the attachment I put on mine? Be sure to read all the way to the end.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...d-grapple-bush-grabber.html?highlight=grapple

 

[case580c]

Nope, I'd stick with the lighter weight one that I have which now features a wider opening. for stones, as in digging them out, a narrower grapple will work better but you want it wide enough so that you can see it as the front section is completely blind on tractor my size and so i'm mostly looking at the ends to know what my grapple is doing.

Eric What size and model is your grapple like your Song video like it.

 

[IslandTractor]

My grapple manufacturer went out of business about ten years ago. It’s a Millonzi 48” light duty. The light duty designation is in reference to skid steers as the CUT grapple market was pretty small twelve years ago when I bought it. I think mine is roughly equivalent to Markham (now sold under ? name) Titan, and the smaller two lines of EA grapples. Biggest difference is that my grapple jaw opening is 42+” which is VERY nice to have.