The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

IslandTractor · Aug 16, 2017

EverythingAttachments said:
Guys, I'm past stumped here. It has been a revolving door of ignored justification for YEARS in this thread, and it seemingly will only continue to be as much. :mur:

In this 262 page thread I started on New Years Eve in 2012, have we not addressed this recurring rhetoric from IT many times? :newhere:
Yes: Just last week, I searched the TBN archives of this thread and posted replies and pics from IT's last case of amnesia.

Am I dreaming here, or have you guys(Wicked Grapple owners) not posted NUMEROUS pics which show "real world" benefits of having Wicked teeth? :anyone:
Not dreaming: My customer pics file consists of 39 folders and 1,505 awesome photos! :applause:

Has Ted talked about and demonstrated advantages in videos? :confused3:
Duh!

Have I posted pics of my father in law's brand new L3301 Kubota, which was purchased so he could have a Wicked Grapple of his very own? :dance1:
Yes: It's a rock and log gripping, vine ripping machine thanks to the serrated Wicked teeth design. :devil:

Have WE(You and I) not experienced this all first hand, with our butts in the operator's seat? :steeringwheel: :tractor:
YES! :cool2:

Maybe we should cave, drink some of the :hypnodisk: sour grapes Island Koolaid :hypnodisk: and accept this wonky Wicked Grapple idea's evident fate of failure... :tombstone:

Me: Takes a sip :drink:, leans back in chair :cloud9: and drops mic eace: .... :laughing:
Travis

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Travis, have you ever used a grapple with "inadequate" teeth? Has anyone ever bought an EA grapple because their other grapple just couldn't hold on to the load? If so please link to those posts. I know that some grapples have straight bottom tines without teeth but that's a design choice with its own pluses and minuses. I just don't recall anyone complaining about inadequate grapple teeth. I've done my share of grappling and never found the traditional industry standard type teeth lacking. You can claim yours are better but other than your own non comparative testimony what evidence is there that grapples other than your own have problems?

And remember to inform people that you are not exactly an unbiased participant in discussions about EA marketing strategy and are about as objective as any other sales person commenting on the competition.

EverythingAttachments · Aug 16, 2017

After dozing off from a stiff dose of Island Koolaid...

I'm awakened by a faint guitar intro that grows stronger with some drums, screaming and the sound of someone doing his best impression of Axl Rose saying "Welcome to the Island, we have Grapplin' Fun and Games"...

The short lived, dreamy spin on an epic Guns n Roses anthem with false promises of fun quickly fades into Elton John's Rocketman and I realize I'm not in North Carolina anymore...

IslandTractor said:
Has anyone ever bought an EA grapple because their other grapple just couldn't hold on to the load? I just don't recall anyone complaining about inadequate grapple teeth. ....never found the traditional industry standard type teeth lacking. ...non comparative testimony what evidence is there that grapples other than your own have problems?

...you are not exactly an unbiased participant in discussions about EA marketing strategy ...about as objective as any other sales person commenting on the competition.

Oh d@mn, I'm on an Island.

Travis

lostcreekranch · Aug 16, 2017

EverythingAttachments said:
After dozing off from a stiff dose of Island Koolaid...

I'm awakened by a faint guitar intro that grows stronger with some drums, screaming and the sound of someone doing his best impression of Axl Rose saying "Welcome to the Island, we have Grapplin' Fun and Games"...

The short lived, spin on an epic Guns n Roses anthem with false promises of fun quickly fades into Elton John's Rocketman and I realize I'm not in North Carolina anymore...

Oh d@mn, I'm on an Island.
Travis

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Hey Travis!

Spin around 3 times.

Click your heels together three times.

And state 10 times in a loud voice "I must conform!"

Ruby Slippers Clicking Heels Figurine - YouTube

buckeyefarmer · Aug 16, 2017

You can put certain people on your ignore list.

lostcreekranch · Aug 16, 2017

The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

buckeyefarmer said:
You can put certain people on your ignore list.

Nope, this is too much fun!

Daryle Singletary - Too Much Fun - YouTube

IslandTractor · Aug 16, 2017

So sad, Travis has no data or evidence just hype.

1) You ignored the question so I guess we have to announce that indeed Travis has either never used a non EA grapple or that he did and had no difficulty.

2) He's apparently never sold a grapple to someone who found the competition lacking in the grip department either.

3) It's easy to sell a new "feature" when all it takes is smoke and mirrors to make the superiority claim. "Grandad loves it" Good thing for EA that grapples aren't subject to truth in advertising standards.

4) More likely, the "fabulous" EA teeth are simply the result of a manufacturing plan to simplify fabrication.

This thread is becoming nothing more than an EA advertising gimmick. The self promotion borders on nauseating. Sad. MAGA.

IslandTractor · Aug 16, 2017

Enjoying the sheet show.

EverythingAttachments · Aug 16, 2017

IslandTractor said:
So sad, Travis has no data or evidence just hype.

This thread is becoming nothing more than an EA advertising gimmick. The self promotion borders on nauseating. Sad. MAGA.

That Island Koolaid has me seeing things so differently. It's like I'm on a different planet, isolated from all things rational...

I wonder what Ted and I were scheming on when we quickly wrote the opening post for this awesome, false, promotional gimmick of a POS grapple advertisement thread here on TBN...

Why did we think this crazy idea would ever work? I mean, weren't people getting along just fine with their "industry standard" grapples?
Who would ever want to change or improve a design if it has been working, and why??
This crazy marketing gimmick will never go beyond a silly nauseating TBN thread.
EA will have those things stacked deep, just begging for customers to buy them, instead of expanding their operation to add more machines and workers to build attachments.
Customers will never be waiting in line for such hype.

rlgustafson, thanks for showing me the way back to reality. The heel clicking and spinning really seemed to work and my senses are slowly coming back to me now...

If I'm not mistaken, the VERY FIRST post in this thread pointed out major advantages of the MORE expensive to make Wicked tooth design and also talks about Ted using grapples from other manufacturers. Ted has been on a tractor since before he could walk and has used many grapple styles from a number of manufacturers on a variety of tractor sizes, makes and models prior to ever thinking about making a Wicked Grapple.

It was over 5 1/2 years ago, but it seems like just yesterday...
Travis

The owner Ted here at Everything Attachments used to race with his dad's money before he had to make his own. In racing, he learned how to make things strong and light and used that knowledge when he designed and built our new WICKED compact root grapple. Ted has used all the equipment that we sell and make at some time in his life and the thing he hated about compact root grapples and some other compact front loader attachments is the weight. Attachments on the back of the tractor, lots of times, depend on weight since there's no down force however anything on the front of the tractor that is not absolutely necessary is just dead weight. We're using a special steel not used in this industry very often. Average steel has a yield strength of 36,000 pounds. The steel we're using in this grapple to make it light and strong is a minimum of 80,000 pound yield strength. The cost is double but the results are great!! The grapple you see in the picture was taken with a cell phone(pardon the quality). Over Christmas vacation, it was used over 30 hours by Ted clearing a new lot.

The following is straight from Ted:
I did everything I could do to stress test this new design. I think anything can be torn up if you don't know how to use something properly but I tried almost everything and wasn't able to hurt it. It was also a pleasure not having that extra 100 pounds from the grapple I was using the day before. One of my friends rode by that knew me from the old days and the first thing out of his mouth after he knew I designed and built the grapple were...... "You've Race Car'ed it!!!" and I replied with a huge smile because he was right on the money!! The only other way to make a grapple lighter is to use 2 piece tines which are much cheaper and not near as strong. This was a 66" grapple, hoses, couplers and cylinders...complete....408 pounds. I went from 3/8" tines to 5/16" using 80,000 yield strength steel then laminated(with a small gusset at the end) the tips with 3/16" making it go thru the ground with just little grooves. The large gussets you see on other grapples make it much harder to push thru the ground when trying to get the roots and results in a lot more unwanted damage to the turf. Using our new laser, cutting the circular holes out of the tines alone reduced the weight by 38 pounds without reducing its strength and function whatsoever. The holes have to be cut with a laser instead of a plasma because the heat created from the plasma with the holes this close together will warp the tine. Also, we are able to put razor sharp teeth on the end which makes everything stay in the grapple much better and adds to it's wickedness. The outer tines are 3/8" and we did many other things that we will highlight in the video as soon as we get one painted for sell. Actually, I've already sold a couple over the phone with the attached pictures for delivery after New Years.
The BEST THING......they will cost you less than the root grapples that we're selling now from my brother's company @ Construction Attachments.
We can't wait to show you the video soon and point out the other design changes on what is sure to be the most revolutionary root grapple to date!! It is a superior design with a huge emphasis on strength and weight.
Let us know what you think!!!!

aeblank · Aug 16, 2017

I'm out. The bickering has gotten down right harsh.

Honestly, until now I've thought Travis (speaking / talking as a company representative, not as a guy) did a great job of staying above it all. Note the UNTIL NOW part. I'll leave it at that.