The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #2,012  
Not really, just seen the other two guys videos I watch have the 72"

Frankly that is a lousy reason. Didn't Travis talk to you about options? Or was he just trying to sell the most expensive grapple? Sorry to be so snarky but frankly you deserve to have your dealer educate you rather than settle on a trivial rationale for grapple selection.

Obviously what grapple is "best" is determined by what the intended use is and what tractor/loader you have. The fact that some acquaintances have bought wide isn't really a very good rationale. Many people make the mistake of buying a grapple the same width as the tractor standard bucket without thinking the issue through.

A wide grapple has less digging capability than a narrower one. Simple physics. Concentration of force.

A wide grapple is heavier so leaves you with less net lift capacity. Again simple physics.

A wide grapple typically comes with two lids rather than one. More expensive and heavier still.

Grapples push aside brush the way a boat's prow pushes through water. You don't need to even cover your track width to drive a grapple through thick brush. I have a 48" light duty grapple on a Kioti DK40se and it works very efficiently in brush. I can lift stumps and rocks I couldn't if I had a heavier grapple. I can rip roots and dig rocks that would be hard to isolate with a wider grapple too.

A wide grapple is less maneuverable around trees etc. A wide grapple makes centering the load more critical to avoid unbalancing the tractor.

Lots of reasons to choose a narrower grapple for typical use on a CUT. Wide grapples were made mostly for skidsteers that do different tasks.

EA makes excellent grapples. I wish they put as much effort into matching potential purchasers with grapples that suit the CUT owners needs. Very few CUT owners are really going to benefit from a grapple wider than 50-60 inches with a single lid.

Ask the question of other grapple owners here:"How many owners of grapples 60" wide or smaller wish they'd bought a heavier, wider, more expensive grapple?"

Don't make the mistake of walking into a car dealership and asking the salesman which car you should buy. He'll over sell you every time.

Good luck. Not too late to change your order and save a bunch of bucks too.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #2,013  
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #2,014  
Frankly that is a lousy reason. Didn't Travis talk to you about options? Or was he just trying to sell the most expensive grapple? Sorry to be so snarky but frankly you deserve to have your dealer educate you rather than settle on a trivial rationale for grapple selection.

Obviously what grapple is "best" is determined by what the intended use is and what tractor/loader you have. The fact that some acquaintances have bought wide isn't really a very good rationale. Many people make the mistake of buying a grapple the same width as the tractor standard bucket without thinking the issue through.

A wide grapple has less digging capability than a narrower one. Simple physics. Concentration of force.

A wide grapple is heavier so leaves you with less net lift capacity. Again simple physics.

A wide grapple typically comes with two lids rather than one. More expensive and heavier still.

Grapples push aside brush the way a boat's prow pushes through water. You don't need to even cover your track width to drive a grapple through thick brush. I have a 48" light duty grapple on a Kioti DK40se and it works very efficiently in brush. I can lift stumps and rocks I couldn't if I had a heavier grapple. I can rip roots and dig rocks that would be hard to isolate with a wider grapple too.

A wide grapple is less maneuverable around trees etc. A wide grapple makes centering the load more critical to avoid unbalancing the tractor.

Lots of reasons to choose a narrower grapple for typical use on a CUT. Wide grapples were made mostly for skidsteers that do different tasks.

EA makes excellent grapples. I wish they put as much effort into matching potential purchasers with grapples that suit the CUT owners needs. Very few CUT owners are really going to benefit from a grapple wider than 50-60 inches with a single lid.

Ask the question of other grapple owners here:"How many owners of grapples 60" wide or smaller wish they'd bought a heavier, wider, more expensive grapple?"

Don't make the mistake of walking into a car dealership and asking the salesman which car you should buy. He'll over sell you every time.

Good luck. Not too late to change your order and save a bunch of bucks too.
If you look at the link that Xfaxman posted, both you and Travis suggested narrower grapples. He suggested a 60-inch and you suggested 54-inch.
It's going on a 60 horsepower tractor so I doubt that he's going to regret going with the 72 inch due to lack of power.

Aaron Z
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #2,015  
Didn't have time to post these here yesterday, but did get some more practice time with my new Wicked Grapple, getting pretty good at the "Crush and Run" technique by the end of the 2 hour session. Still lots more to do.
 

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Didn't have time to post these here yesterday, but did get some more practice time with my new Wicked Grapple, getting pretty good at the "Crush and Run" technique by the end of the 2 hour session. Still lots more to do.

I was spraying clover in my lawn yesterday, but man, that red clover sure does look good in tractor pics!! :thumbsup:
Travis

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   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #2,018  
If you look at the link that Xfaxman posted, both you and Travis suggested narrower grapples. He suggested a 60-inch and you suggested 54-inch.
It's going on a 60 horsepower tractor so I doubt that he's going to regret going with the 72 inch due to lack of power.

Aaron Z

Yep, you can lead a horse to water.....

And, my apologies to Travis for insinuating that he failed to educate the customer.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #2,019  
Just out of curiousity, if a person bought a Wicked and then decided it was too wide,
couldn't they just torch off the outer tines?

For example, here is my 55 hp Mahindra with the 72" single lid.
The tines are about 9 inches apart.
If I torched off the outer two tines, I would then have a 54" grapple.

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Torching off tines would be much easier than trying to add tines.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #2,020  
You would want to talk to Ted about the structural differences on the end tines. I have a 54 and yours would not look like mine if you torched the outside tines off. Mine is also version 2 of their grapple and yours is version 1, so that may have something to do with the differences as well...

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