The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #1,821  
Haul that tractor on out to the factory, hook it up & play!!
I'll have the camera crew meet you out there.
Travis

Can't beat that. Sounds like your confident enough that if I hook up to it I'll want to leave it on. 😄
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #1,822  
It's a great time for a friendly discussion.

I'm pretty sure some members have used both styles, so let's do it!
Travis

The style that works best depends on what tasks it will be used on the most.

I have had both styles and like the L bottom the best. The main difference is picking up small brush and tree limbs.

My first grapple ever, didn't hold much of this stuff:

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Notice how much is left on the ground. :(
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Works well on big single items: :thumbsup:

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My favorite style L bottom, works better on small brush and trees:

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Nothing left on the ground. :)

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And rocks:

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:thumbsup: More rocks: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...n-picture-thread-post4339583.html#post4339583
 
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   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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Great examples Xfax!
Travis
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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Can't beat that. Sounds like your confident enough that if I hook up to it I'll want to leave it on. ��

Yes, fairly confident. We've already sold three new 55" grapple rakes this afternoon!
One for a Kubota B2320, a Kioti CK35 and a New Holland TC34.
Travis
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #1,825  
Great examples Xfax!
Travis

Thanks. Even though these are bigger grapples, the operational functional differences are the same as smaller size grapples.

The clamshell pictured above is bigger than the L bottom, but it won't pick up as much brush.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #1,826  
The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

I agree with Xfaxman that the L shaped grapple is more generally useful. I've only used a clamshell briefly but I own a 4n1 bucket which has the same clamping geometry. The clamshell would be great for pure brush or for any single object but the standard L grapple will usually hold more, can be loaded with more stuff without dropping what is inside already and can handle multiple different sized objects at the same time. The clamshell would be better at scraping up debris in the ground but less effective digging out stumps and saplings.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #1,827  
I have had both styles and like the L bottom the best.

Exactly. I have both styles as well and find little use for the rake style. It is handy at times, mosty back raking and crude dozer work, but it is the least used compared to either L grapple.
 
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Exactly. I have both styles as well and find little use for the rake style. It is handy at times, mosty back raking and crude dozer work, but it is the least used compared to either L grapple.

I remembered you have had both styles. Thanks for the input, Tom.

Here's my take...
I think both styles have certain advantages. This new grapple takes lightweight grapple construction to the next level and maintains strength at the same time.
Ted proved it by testing the grapple on our L6060 and putting footage on YouTube for the world to see.
The dozer-like tine geometry promotes a small tractor's ability to push the tines through the ground with ease.
The root rake style allows you to pull brush, vines and other debris backwards, which isn't recommended with many long bottom grapples.

If your tractor isn't dependent on the ultra light weight, you should easily be able to push our unobstructed long-bottom Wicked Grapple tines through the ground.
You should be able to grab a larger pile of brush with the traditional Wicked style because you can cradle and physically fit more "inside" it.
Travis
 
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   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #1,829  
Keep in mind that CUT FELs are designed and built for lifting, not bulldozing. Long and thin loader arms are nowhere near as tough as short stocky bulldozer arms. Pushing a "submerged" grapple into soil that may hide boulders and stumps or even big roots could result in off center strikes that could damage the FEL if enough momentum is built up. I'd prefer to do that type of work with a box blade or subsoiler.
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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Keep in mind that CUT FELs are designed and built for lifting, not bulldozing. Long and thin loader arms are nowhere near as tough as short stocky bulldozer arms. Pushing a "submerged" grapple into soil that may hide boulders and stumps or even big roots could result in off center strikes that could damage the FEL if enough momentum is built up. I'd prefer to do that type of work with a box blade or subsoiler.

Yes, as with anything, caution should be exercised, but Wicked tine design makes it easier, safer, more efficient for you to push up vines/roots and then scoop them up with one motion.
Travis

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