The Tractor Scam 2018 Kubota Grand L4760

[3 Horse Ranch]

Not sure why you are posting this? It is textbook... I see these multiple times a day. If we all came on here declaring that the scam we saw on FB Market or CL was a scam.... there would be no other content here.

So what exactly is your point in replying?

 

[prichard]

When I was looking for my tractor, I searched CL a lot to see if I could find any deals. I came across a lot of these wonderful machines for an extraordinarily low price for the great shape they were in. There are MANY of these out there. The thing I don't get is, who is doing it, why are they doing it, and SHIRLEY they are not actually getting money from people in response to these ads. It drove me crazy to see these, cause it took me time to open the ad only to go on to the next one. I get the random emails from the Nigerian Princess. They might get one in 100,000 to send them money for an easy Bot to send out emails. But it takes time and a bit of effort to post on CL and other sites. Its like they are posting these ads just to make me waste my time. Arrrrrgh! ! ! OK, I'm done.

They wouldn't put in the effort if no one fell for it. They're making money off someone.

 

[Fxfymn413]

They're making money off someone.

And that's why posts like this are worth doing. Most folks will not admit they didn't recognize the posts are scams, but it may just help to warn off the unwary. Despite all of the publicity about elder scams I see one or two listed each week in our local paper's crime report where a substantial amount of money was taken from some uninformed person.

The worst thing about all of these ads is you cannot be sure if the sale is a legitimate bargain or just another scam attempt. There are lots of ads for equipment that are just a few thousand below where they should be and are scam attempts since they keep appearing, but every once in a while a real ad appears in the same price range that I don't bother responding to because of the scammers. Makes it tough on the sellers and buyers.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

And that's why posts like this are worth doing. Most folks will not admit they didn't recognize the posts are scams, but it may just help to warn off the unwary. Despite all of the publicity about elder scams I see one or two listed each week in our local paper's crime report where a substantial amount of money was taken from some uninformed person.

The worst thing about all of these ads is you cannot be sure if the sale is a legitimate bargain or just another scam attempt. There are lots of ads for equipment that are just a few thousand below where they should be and are scam attempts since they keep appearing, but every once in a while a real ad appears in the same price range that I don't bother responding to because of the scammers. Makes it tough on the sellers and buyers.

If someone is going to sell a piece of equipment locally they will post on craigslist. If someone wants to sell nationally they will post on tractor house. Selling a tractor from out of state on a local website doesn't make sense.

 

[PILOON]

Once when looking for an MG sports car I rec'd and offer from an overseas soldier that had all the earmarks of a scam.
Yeah, out of country, see at a friends, wire transfers etc.

But I did follow it up as it was not too far and to my surprise it was the real deal.

The custodian even had , on hand, the complete maintenance history receipts etc.
Turned out it was the soldiers 'toy' and he had been re assigned for another tour.
No, I did not make the buy for other reasons (like missing the soft top and how to transfer it plus the logistics of moving it un registered or plated short of a costly flatbed move)
Also even boosting we could not get it to run.

Yes, it was legit but simply not practical and short of my goal.

 

[RjCorazza]

That MG did have the initial hallmarks of a scam. Being able to physically see the product for review eliminates a whole lot of scams.

 

[metalbender]

Saw my old Ford 3000 for sale om FB shortly after I sold it locally. Had my son call, tractor was at a distant location but the seller would bring it back if a substantial down payment was made in advance. They even used my original pic in the ad.

 

[5030]

Back in the day, I sold a lot of hay on CL. Probably 80% of the respondents never showed up and of the rest, most wanted to low ball me. Very few upstanding 'buyers' on CL or FB Market place.

Having been doing it for a while now, I have established customers so I don't have to advertise anymore.

 

[5030]

Saw my old Ford 3000 for sale om FB shortly after I sold it locally. Had my son call, tractor was at a distant location but the seller would bring it back if a substantial down payment was made in advance. They even used my original pic in the ad.

Photo shop and cut and paste are real popular today.

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

And that's why posts like this are worth doing. Most folks will not admit they didn't recognize the posts are scams, but it may just help to warn off the unwary. Despite all of the publicity about elder scams I see one or two listed each week in our local paper's crime report where a substantial amount of money was taken from some uninformed person.

The worst thing about all of these ads is you cannot be sure if the sale is a legitimate bargain or just another scam attempt. There are lots of ads for equipment that are just a few thousand below where they should be and are scam attempts since they keep appearing, but every once in a while a real ad appears in the same price range that I don't bother responding to because of the scammers. Makes it tough on the sellers and buyers.

And then there is the story of the $100 Mercedes.
This supposedly happened back in the 1980s. A guy sees an ad for a nearly new Mercedes sports car for $100 and thinking it was either a joke, a scam, or a typo decided to follow up on it anyway. It turned out to be the real deal. Some guy had abandoned his wife and ran off with his secretary. After a few months he is starting to run low on cash so he contacts his abandoned wife and says "Sell my Mercedes and send me half of the proceeds." Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Supposedly a true story

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I'm posting this as it speaks to what this thread is discussing:

 

[Stickperson]

[snip] Plus she wouldn't be selling the tractor herself she would have some male family member doing it for her.

My wife strongly disagrees.

 

[Mart5130]

If you have followed my other posts you know I'm searching for a tractor. I clicked a facebook ad for a 2018 Kubota Grand L4760. $16,000. I clicked on contact seller and sent email.


Right of the bat, The price is to good to be true. Red flag is going off. I already heard the husband died before. I image it's possible and giving the benefit of the doubt I replied.


Her response


Yeap, Red Flag confirmed it's a Scam Also the pics see sent me the engine hours don't match what she told it was.

Good you recognized the obvious scam here. Unfortunately others will fall for it. Always go with your gut and the old saying-“ if it’s too good to be true….”

 

[Talkstogoats]

Folks need to realize that this type of scam is not just about trying to get you to send money...
They also get you to send information.
These days information is money.
By responding, you gave them your email... Possibly your name... Your isp number... Maybe your location... Some folks offer up the telephone number....
All valuable info that can and will be sold on the dark web to other scam artists.

 

[kyryder]

If you have followed my other posts you know I'm searching for a tractor. I clicked a facebook ad for a 2018 Kubota Grand L4760. $16,000. I clicked on contact seller and sent email.


Right of the bat, The price is to good to be true. Red flag is going off. I already heard the husband died before. I image it's possible and giving the benefit of the doubt I replied.


Her response


Yeap, Red Flag confirmed it's a Scam Also the pics see sent me the engine hours don't match what she told it was.

If you have followed my other posts you know I'm searching for a tractor. I clicked a facebook ad for a 2018 Kubota Grand L4760. $16,000. I clicked on contact seller and sent email.


Right of the bat, The price is to good to be true. Red flag is going off. I already heard the husband died before. I image it's possible and giving the benefit of the doubt I replied.


Her response


Yeap, Red Flag confirmed it's a Scam Also the pics see sent me the engine hours don't match what she told

 

[PILOON]

All valuable info that can and will be sold on the dark web to other scam artists.

That might explain my frequent calls that suggest my CC has been cloned.
LOL, the never say what card (have a few) and always that a small 'test' swipe usually followed by an amount under $1000.
But always the same voice!

 

[kyryder]

If you have followed my other posts you know I'm searching for a tractor. I clicked a facebook ad for a 2018 Kubota Grand L4760. $16,000. I clicked on contact seller and sent email.


Right of the bat, The price is to good to be true. Red flag is going off. I already heard the husband died before. I image it's possible and giving the benefit of the doubt I replied.


Her response


Yeap, Red Flag confirmed it's a Scam Also the pics see sent me the engine hours don't match what she told it was.

Everyone on this website knows this is a scammer. What's the point of the overly long post? We applaud you for learning something that everyone already knows.

 

[deezler]

Sometimes when the pictures match the description, and the price is only slighty-too-good.... it's hard to immediate detect the scam.

My initial response to any sale ad that falls in this category is, where is it located and when can I come see it. Anyone who doesn't want to let you see the product, doesn't actually have anything to sell.

 

[sunandsand]

Every once in a great while deals that are too good to be true turn out to be true after all. I will qualify that by saying that you MUST know the seller - stuff on Craigslist etc., is most likely to be a scam.

Bought a house out of a divorce sale by taking over a $7,000 mortgage. I knew both parties. I bought another one some years later for $14,000 (inflation?) because the seller was a LEO and the city he worked for passed an ordinance that all their LEO people had to live in town. He'd bought a house in the town and this one need to go away. Soon, too, he couldn't do two house payments. Rented it out for a decade, the neighborhood eventually went to pot and I sold it.

Bought a 1958 44 passenger International Harvester school bus for - wait for it - a dollar. Owner (who I knew) said make it go away TODAY, I obliged him. (Co-ventured with a friend half and half, fifty cents each), dragged it away. Changed the plugs, cleaned the points, sold it a week later for $500 cash to a guy who wanted to live in it.

Bought an airplane with a bad cylinder from a teacher who just simply didn't want it any more, $4,000. Still have it (and have spent more than that just on the radios since).

There are more, but the one thing that is a constant is that all these transactions were face to face with the sellers. It is simply too easy to be scammed on the net, do these deals in person or don't even start. Even in person, trust your gut. If someone explains their deal to you three times and you still don't understand it, it isn't because you are dumb, it is because they don't want you to understand it. Grip wallet firmly in hand and run away NOW.

Best Regards,

Mike/Florida

(and PS - tractors don't have titles in Florida - caveat emptor!)

 

[PILOON]

Hey, I once bought an MG-B for $3k as the mother did not want her son to drive it.
Some minor upkeep and later sold it for $7 K.
Then came a small aircraft that I agreed to buy with a condition that seller cold not meet so he dropped the price 'as is' to $1000. I obtained proper ferry permits etc and flew it home and later sold it for $6K.

Once a Civil air Patrol* was about to undergo a base inspection so a non regulation Piper on floats had to get lost.
They begged me to take the floats away for $200. (or best offer) but while eyeballing the floats I was actually looking over the wings and air frame. They said hey add another $200 ant it is all yours. I added that to import to Canada it had to be a complete aircraft and not parts.
OK, add another $200. and take the engine that was slung from a rafter.
Great, here is my check for $600. and I'll be back tomorrow with my trailer.
Next day I loaded the floats on the trailer, wings on my roof and engine in my trunk.
Oh, and they helped me load up.
On my return I sold the floats for$1300., and hour later the air frame for another $1000. and just B4 dark dropped off the engine for an additional $1000.
Not a bad day!
But now the icing on the cake.
A month later I received a charitable tax receipt for having made a donation to the Civil Air patrol!**
Not a bad day's work!
And I actually was used the company's car during a work week to haul all this home.
I'll add that my then employer*** was a most generous firm to work for and they actually were very knowledgeable of my sideline affairs.

*Montreal was my home and Burlington Vt was the CAP location.
The AC in question was a Piper J3 on Edo 1320 floats with an 85HP shielded Continental.

** Being Canadian I had no use for the donation as I had no US income.

*** Won't name them but they were a "fortune 500' and great employers.
Their comments were, as long as sales progress keep doing whatever.

Yep, good old days!
Hey they let me use my private Cessna for traveling my territory so I often took my hobby to work.