John Fitzgerald
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Ha! He could probably find some old steel barbell weights cheap, or maybe free. Sand is too bulky, IMO.
The Real Problem With the Titan Ballast Box
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Ha! He could probably find some old steel barbell weights cheap, or maybe free. Sand is too bulky, IMO.
TheMan419
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He could get around 6000 lbs of uranium into the thing....
As for not measuring it.... well Titan provides measurements on their web site. Measure the thing and see if you are close. Maybe they gave you one that is significantly smaller than 5 cuft? We could sue them!
As for not measuring it.... well Titan provides measurements on their web site. Measure the thing and see if you are close. Maybe they gave you one that is significantly smaller than 5 cuft? We could sue them!
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Suburban Plowboy
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Not sure people understand. If it holds 375 pounds of sand, it holds something like 560 pounds of concrete (not 800), and 560 + 130 = total weight of 690. Even if the figures are a little off, a weight (contents without box) of 800 is out of reach without metal. Measuring will not change that.
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Where does Titan ever say that the box holds 800lbs of sand?
They say the "capacity is 800lbs" which is very different. I take it as that is their weight limit on their product. Just like when a manufacturer says the loader on your tractor has a 1500lbs "capacity". They are saying the loader will safely lift that amount. They don't guarantee that the bucket holds 1500lbs of sand.
WranglerX
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Dry sand weighs about 100 pounds per cubic foot depending on particle size and density...
If box is 5.3 cubic feet it simply holds about 530 pounds of sand....
https://sciencing.com/calculate-weight-sand-8149924.html
You need to research better values for "fill" materials and check you dimensions (actually give true values of inside box area) and not depend on manufacturers advertised values....
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CMV
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The issue is your interpretation, not the box. Most people would read that description and think "I can put up to 800 lbs in it and it won't break". Very few would read that description and think "I can just fill it with material of any density and it will weigh 800 lbs".
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Suburban Plowboy
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The ad specifically mentions concrete and sand. Neither one will get you to 800 pounds. People on forums are claiming concrete did the trick for them. Not unless it's some kind of concrete not found here on earth. And as I explained, measuring is a waste of time. It won't change the density of concrete.
Think about it. A container that holds 10 pounds of lead will only hold 17 pounds of gold, no matter what the dimensions are.
I'm providing useful information. I guarantee you, someone out there will think about buying this box, and he will Google for information, and he will find out he can't get 800 pounds without metal. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with me helping such people out. I Googled for information and found claims that were just plain wrong.
This is a common problem with Internet forums. People talk about how posts upset them rather than the substance.
WranglerX
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This is beginning to sound like a troll messing with us.... If you can not give exact capacity of BOX (HxWxD).... So far we have 4 pages of blather that does not support your assertions....
I guess your best bet right now is to sue the manufacturer/retailer for false advertising...
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People do understand that different materials have different densities and weigh different. The ad simply states you can put a variety of things in their ballast box like sand, rocks etc... They never state that their box actually holds a certain amount (weight) of a substance, just that it has a weight capacity of 800lbs.
Redlands Okie
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Well the picture above does say it holds up to 800 pounds of sand, concrete or steel. So it is a little misleading. If it said 800 lbs then fine, but it does sort of indicate it would hold 800 lbs of concrete or sand and it seems the volume is to low to do so. A bit of poor wording in the description.
