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   / Tell us something we don’t know. #5,701  
scootr said:
I owned a modern Mustang GT.
It was miles ahead of the old ones.
Like night and day in both power and performance.
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Yap. 60s the day of horsepower. Go like scat in a sgtraight line but corner like a lead sled. AS for looks in vehicles you can take all of the modern "Pickups" and dump in the ocean. Ugly hulking huge thins that can't haul a load of wood in that short bed. Give me the old style WORK truck that did not need a step stool to get in the bed and a foot step to climb into the cab. Rediculo0us!!!!
 
   / Tell us something we don’t know. #5,702  
The ladder to get in the bed is a non-starter for me.
 
   / Tell us something we don’t know. #5,703  
turnkey4099 said:
Yap. 60s the day of horsepower. Go like scat in a sgtraight line but corner like a lead sled. AS for looks in vehicles you can take all of the modern "Pickups" and dump in the ocean. Ugly hulking huge thins that can't haul a load of wood in that short bed. Give me the old style WORK truck that did not need a step stool to get in the bed and a foot step to climb into the cab. Rediculo0us!!!!
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To each his own opinion....

But you could get short bed trucks or long bed trucks 40 years ago, just like today. And they can haul just as much if not more than a 1980's truck.

Modern trucks have more power, better brakes, better handling, can tow more, haul more, etc etc.

And they all rust out just the same as in the 1980s....if anything the newer ones have less rust after 10years.

You don't like the styling....and I get that. Because that's an opinion. But the FACT is that today's trucks are WAY more capable. And they don't give you a freaking workout just to drive them.

Oh, and I also remember one of the most popular accessories on a truck 30-40 years ago was a running board. Maybe you just don't like the fact that the MFG decided to integrate it?

Personally, I don't miss changing tires every 20k, rough riding log wagons, repacking bearings every 10k, and doing spark plugs and ignition tune ups ever 20-25k, rebuilding front ends every 40k.....and all for a truck that's shot at 100k.

No thanks....I'll take my modern truck
 
   / Tell us something we don’t know. #5,704  
LD1 said:
To each his own opinion....

But you could get short bed trucks or long bed trucks 40 years ago, just like today. And they can haul just as much if not more than a 1980's truck.

Modern trucks have more power, better brakes, better handling, can tow more, haul more, etc etc.

And they all rust out just the same as in the 1980s....if anything the newer ones have less rust after 10years.

You don't like the styling....and I get that. Because that's an opinion. But the FACT is that today's trucks are WAY more capable. And they don't give you a freaking workout just to drive them.

Oh, and I also remember one of the most popular accessories on a truck 30-40 years ago was a running board. Maybe you just don't like the fact that the MFG decided to integrate it?

Personally, I don't miss changing tires every 20k, rough riding log wagons, repacking bearings every 10k, and doing spark plugs and ignition tune ups ever 20-25k, rebuilding front ends every 40k.....and all for a truck that's shot at 100k.

No thanks....I'll take my modern truck
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Yes, back then you COULD get a short bed on speciasl order and wait for it. Running boards on PUs 30-40 years ago? That would have been in the 80s and already the "build 'em high" fad was going on. I never dreamed the day would come back then when a shortbed skiy scraper was all hyou could get at the dealer without special order. I'll bet you can't even special order a PU with the old time road height. I've owned as daily drivers vehicles all teh way back to my first one '37 chev 2dr. I would NOT want to go bacvk to the days of new vehicles using a quart of oil per/1,000miles and new tires at less than 20,000. Not to metion valve jobs etc. and totally worn out well before 100,000 miles.
 
   / Tell us something we don’t know. #5,705  
Not all vehicles in the 60’s and 70’s were short lived if rust was not a factor…

My 72 Valiant with electronic ignition has 230,000 miles… original engine and trans… I did have a rear axle bearing go out and timing chain…

Timing chain was $40 in parts and a Saturday morning. Paid $800 for it in High School and still have it.

Neighbor had a 240d Mercedes with well over 400,000 miles with nothing but oil changes… probably would still have had a drunk not totaled it.

One of our Nurses received from her father a new 82 Honda Accord to go off to nursing school and well over 300,000 miles too.

A little luck, sane driving, keep up on maintenance coupled with a mild climate might surprise you.
 
   / Tell us something we don’t know. #5,706  
ultrarunner said:
Not all vehicles in the 60’s and 70’s were short lived if rust was not a factor…

A little luck, sane driving, keep up on maintenance coupled with a mild climate might surprise you.
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No argument there. About 10 years ago I bought a mid-60s Dodge Dart that had been a daily driver for a woman in LA from the day it was bought until around 2010. I believe she passed on, and her nephew inherited it and drove it back to New England. I bought it from him a couple years later. A bit over 250k on it, still runs great. No rust, which is what to this day kills vehicles here in the northeast.
 
   / Tell us something we don’t know. #5,707  
ultrarunner said:
Not all vehicles in the 60’s and 70’s were short lived if rust was not a factor…

My 72 Valiant with electronic ignition has 230,000 miles… original engine and trans… I did have a rear axle bearing go out and timing chain…

Timing chain was $40 in parts and a Saturday morning. Paid $800 for it in High School and still have it.

Neighbor had a 240d Mercedes with well over 400,000 miles with nothing but oil changes… probably would still have had a drunk not totaled it.

One of our Nurses received from her father a new 82 Honda Accord to go off to nursing school and well over 300,000 miles too.

A little luck, sane driving, keep up on maintenance coupled with a mild climate might surprise you.
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Back in the days when a timing chain broke and the valves didn't eat the engine?
 
   / Tell us something we don’t know. #5,708  
Interference fit is more with overhead cam… some are notorious so much so I think Ford offered free timing belt change way outside normal warranty on Escort.
 
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