Take a look at this thread

[Chris2520]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...195-comparing-orange-forums-green-forums.html


We are getting bashed pretty good over there..
Just read the thread , and you decide if there's anything you want to
add. Just thought i would let some JD guys give there view.
I went over and said my peace... and so did John M and Roy

Chris......

 

[Thomas]

Been following the thread...good points given w/pride also repect,maybe in couple days or so group hug might be call for tho.

 

[DieselPower]

Can't we all just get along.

 

[Chris2520]

Well , I haft to disagree on the respect part.
i didn't really see any over there.
The perseption over there is all we bought was a name.
I dont see any respect in that at all.
But maybe i am just reading it wrong.

The thread was started when some guy said
all our forum was, is complaints about broke tractors and problems
not like the kubota forum...
i dont see that at all.
what i do see is if you go to there owning and operating forum.
just start at the top and go down and read headers.
I broke it.
my axal leakes
my MMM wont raise
my 3 point dont work.
input shaft leaking
over heating
Rops wont fold
Clutch issues
and on and on.
So i found the thread to be quite inaccurate..

Anyway , just my view..

Chris....

 

[Thomas]

Morning Chris.
I shoulda been more clear about respect part...indeed there was no call for sour words about "not like the kubota forum..."etc,I was referring to groups replies as they show respect,for in the early days of TBN it would have gotten real nasty quick.

By the sounds the gentlman should bought bulldozer instead...equipment abuse!!

 

[ShookFarm]

It's the age old adage "opinions are like" armpits. We all see things our own way. Even those of us who try to be objective will have our experiences jading our views.

My methodology was simple when I was purchasing. Use TBN to look to define any major issues (didn't find any on TBN), see if there is any info which will help me make my purchase choice, etc.,.

I'd say let it fly. Those who respond won't change the originator's idea. He/she saw what they wanted to see. Let's all just stick to helping each other out and let those who only see colors go somewhere else.

 

[Jksnvly]

Well said Shook-use what you can and ignore the rest.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

That thread isn't worth dignifying with a post. It's certainly not worth losing sleep over. We all know that all the JD myths are BS. JD makes a great product as do the rest. I objectively shopped NH,Kubota,MF,JD and Kioti. There's nothing one could do over the others. The three things I think make the choice for people is (in this order) Price, fit, dealer. For me and you Deere was the best choice. Not because it's a Deere but because of the above three factors.

Matt T.

 

[Fabro]

Hi Fella's,
I have always been a GM man and a John Deere man. The reason I bought a Kubota B7500 was because of price and features. mine was second hand. Although I'm not putting it down! It amazes me what that little 21 hp tractor will do at times. My truck is a Ford because of the same reasons. { price and features}. It's been a good truck for 138,000 miles. When I first started reading that thread, I felt a little awkward as well but didn't take it to heart because I know they can all fail. The tractor I want next is a JD 2520 I think. tried one out and that thing seemed to turn as sharp as my B 7500 and very smooth. I also like blondes but married a brunet!

 

[JB4310]

I had no brand loyalty in compact tractors since I never owned one and I never dreamed of owning a JD, when I finally was able to go tractor shopping I started with NH since there's a dealer in my town, almost bought one when I realized I could afford it, then started looking at Kubota and Deere.
I settled on JD because I figured it was at least as good or better than the others, had the features I liked and didn't cost much if any more than the others, most importantly had the best dealer hands down!
Now I still haven't worn the JD cap yet but am very happy with my tractor. kubota built their rep on an excellent little tractor that was very inexpensive at the time, and there is still alot of older kubs out there going strong, but I didn't see any great difference in comparably equiped machines now when I compared, and that's what alot of those people are harping about over there, that JD owners pay to much, I just don't see it.

 

[JDCAN]

Who really cares, the way I see it nobody talks about the losers. People only complain and talk crap about the best. When was the last time most people where jealous of the big losers? Never , the same goes for a lot of things in life.

People only talk about the winners. With that said for a kubota forum to be talking about John Deere has to tell you something

I posted my two bits of cents in that thread. Not worth much more than a hill of beans.

In the end who cares, my tractor is good

 

[ducati996]

Who gives a crap really in what the orange team posts...I dont feel obiligated to defend Deere on the internet. I can do that with my wallet, and in the end market share and sales revenue win. Or just having the name of a company that been around 170 years, should pretty much make the case.

Duc

 

[DrainPondDesign]

thcri (aka Murph) had an interesting thread on brand loyalty a while back that evoked some interesting replies.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/related-topics/98941-how-much-do-you-really.html?highlight=color

I like my choice of CUT too but seeing it in the shop next to some big Ag tractors & harvesters provided a real dose of humility.

 

[milkman]

I said it over there, looks like it fits here as well.

"I can't see that this thread has any merit at all".

 

[Nuru]

Checked out that thread and it does seem to be quite entertaining, but a lot of enhanced statements seem to be being thrown around there. Typical behavior when you are unsure about your choice and want to re-convince yourself you made the correct decision. i agree with Milkman, on the usefulness of that thread. I feel the reasons you got myore JD people speaking about issues iare two-fold

1) JD Owners are trying to fix it before it goes to the shop or at least have a leg up going in!

2) There are a ton more JD owners who are capable of providing good advice.

 

[ihookem]

Kubotas are JUNK!! Yup, that's what the guy at the church picnic said today. He rented a 30 horse Kubota to cut 22 ac. of church property grass and it broke down every time. Then he bought his JD 4400, to do the grass.I just quietly got up and walked away. Him not knowing I have a Kubota 7510 I wasn't going to say anything. The point is people get opinions that quick, when one sits on a rental Kubota a few times and it doesn't work he judges a huge company. This guy that started the thread is no doubt a very zealous young man with a Kubota that hasn't had a problem YET! And I would have bought a JD 4110 but it was 2,300 dollars more. I am puzzled when you all say JD was the same price, maybe for you it was. Around here is JD country, a plant for lawn tractors in Mayville, Wis. 20 miles away. Iowa, where I think JD has a plant. A museum in Moline Ill. (in case you are ever in the area) There is history and loyalty here and I think that's why dealers get more for them around here. In your neck of the woods this may not be the case. I'm glad JD sells compacts. Competition keeps companies on their toes and is actually giving Kubota a run for their money. We have very good tractors that way. Kubota is better cause of JD, Massey ,NH and vise versa. Now my junky Kubota cuts the church grass, and it's no fun.

 

[wolc123]

In the 40-45 hp range a Kubota would have to cost $2000 less than a Deere for me to consider purchasing (I am a little color blind). When I was shopping 1.5 years ago the Kubota GL 4330 was actually $500 more than the Deere 4120 so the decision was a no brainer. I do appreciate the orange competition forceing the green to offer competitive features, quality and price but I can't understand why anyone would pay more or even slightly less for a foreign product than an American one of comparable quality and ability. I think maybe those orange guys are a little uncomfortable with this especially around Independence day and we are just seeing them vent thier frustrations on the referenced thread. Happy birthday USA, and go Green.

 

[swines]

People who use owning a certain brand of - whatever - to boost their, apparently, poor self image and insecurity is sometimes amusing - but, most often just a turn-off.

The "discussions" generally devolve into a less than 7th grade exercise in Internet nano-babble with poorly thought out self-rationalizations; and innuendo, projection, opinion, and anecdotes substituting for facts or real information.

I guess I'm just thrilled for people who have fulfilled a need to accomplish something and have a piece of equipment that performs as needed, and is reliable - no matter who the manufacturer may be.

I have nothing negative to say about anyone's choice of equipment. Be happy about your choice! I can only urge people that you don't need to continue feeding your equipment-based self actualization by denigrating other people's choices. An equipment choice doesn't demonstrate that your IQ is superior because you've made a certain decision.

I see so many posts rationalizing why a person has chosen to purchase a specific piece of equipment - and it generally has nothing to do with results, but everything to do with assuring themselves that their judgement was "right."

Here's why I bought a John Deere.

1. I've never owned one.

2. I've always wanted one.

3. Green looks better parked at my place than other colors. <...for joke...>

4. I needed to replace my 20 year old tractor before parts became really difficult to find.

Do I really need other reasons? I don't think so.