Stuck Tractor

[Tannehill Kid]

I have a L3940 with a LA724 FEL. On other tractors I have operated in the past you could push down on the FEL and push the tractor backwards or pull it forward and get the tractor unstuck. When I try this with the L3940 it's like the valves are bi passing and looses pressure and will not push or pull the tractor so I'm STUCK . Is this normal. I hope what I wrote makes sense.

 

[Obed]

I have a L3940 with a LA724 FEL. On other tractors I have operated in the past you could push down on the FEL and push the tractor backwards or pull it forward and get the tractor unstuck. When I try this with the L3940 it's like the valves are bi passing and looses pressure and will not push or pull the tractor so I'm STUCK . Is this normal. I hope what I wrote makes sense.

Using my 28 hp John Deere, I can push the tractor in the reverse direction with the FEL to help get the tractor unstuck. However, my FEL does not have a lof of power for pulling the tractor in the forward direction. Obed

 

[bikerdib]

Like Obed said, the FEL on my B3300 doesn't have a lot of forward pull (that would be the movement to dump) but I can push myself backward pretty well. In fact, I had to do just that a few months ago. I thought I could drive through the woods after a rain. WRONG! I made it about 80 yards from the road when all of a sudden the front wheels disappeared. Even the front axle was mostly buried. Luckily the rears never sank below the bottom of the wheel rim. Using the reverse pedal (hst) and the front loader I was able to work my way back out to the gravel road, 8" at a time.

 

[txdon]

I've been suck like that before and had to inch my way out with a com-a-long and enough chains to the closest tree.

 

[k0ua]

I have a L3940 with a LA724 FEL. On other tractors I have operated in the past you could push down on the FEL and push the tractor backwards or pull it forward and get the tractor unstuck. When I try this with the L3940 it's like the valves are bi passing and looses pressure and will not push or pull the tractor so I'm STUCK . Is this normal. I hope what I wrote makes sense.

You should be able to raise the bucket, then dump the bucket until the front edge is pointed straight down then lower it down into the muck. then curl which should rotate the edge of the bucket forward and the tractor backward.. Of course you need to be apply some tire rotation in the reverse direction at the same time. You should move backward a few inches, repeat procedure, without too much wheel spin so as to not dig your rears into another hole.. It is also beneficial if you have something to put under the bucket edge (log or board) so as to be able to lift the front wheels out of the slop. It is helpful to practice this technique on dry ground when you are not stuck.. If the FEL will not lift the front end of the tractor when the bucket edge is pointed straight down, then you need your relief pressure checked. It may be low.

James K0UA

 

[94BULLITT]

You should be able to raise the bucket, then dump the bucket until the front edge is pointed straight down then lower it down into the muck. then curl which should rotate the edge of the bucket forward and the tractor backward.. Of course you need to be apply some tire rotation in the reverse direction at the same time. You should move backward a few inches, repeat procedure, without too much wheel spin so as to not dig your rears into another hole.. It is also beneficial if you have something to put under the bucket edge (log or board) so as to be able to lift the front wheels out of the slop. It is helpful to practice this technique on dry ground when you are not stuck.. If the FEL will not lift the front end of the tractor when the bucket edge is pointed straight down, then you need your relief pressure checked. It may be low.

James K0UA

That is the exact procedure you need to use. The key to it is pushing on the hydro pedal a little in reverse, if you are not it is somewhat like being on the brakes.

 

[crazyal]

I found that if you curl the front bucket too far in the dump position then it lacks the strength needed to push itself back out of mud. If you uncurl the bucket a little (do some experimenting) then try it you'll find it has more power. You do loose some distance it will push itself backwards each time but I think you'll find that's what you need to do.

 

[TripleR]

What James and others said especially with the SSQA attachment. Our tractors without it seem to have more leverage. I used this twice Sunday when I got stuck in a muddy washout, as mentioned, it works better at pointing straight down as opposed to full dump position.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

I like the previous posters have gotten myself out of no forward motion situations by dropping front bucket and curling the bucket to obtain a few inches of rear motion. Some times I've put branches, limbs and other "stuff" on the ground under the bucket and then lifted front with bucket and then curled back.

 

[Deano]

I've used the above method and used the backhoe to "pull" myself backwards!

 

[VA MTN MAN]

What James and others said especially with the SSQA attachment. Our tractors without it seem to have more leverage. I used this twice Sunday when I got stuck in a muddy washout, as mentioned, it works better at pointing straight down as opposed to full dump position.

I think Kabota should redesigm there loader arms to account for the quick attachment hookup, my 5740 feels like the curl circut is 50% less powerfull with the quick attach. If you look at the setup it puts the back of the bucket about 3 or 4 inches further away from the pins. In order to push the tractor backwords the bucket has to beless than a 45 degree angle.

 

[crazyangel]

If you can coordinate it you will probably benefit from stepping on the rear diff lock lever too

 

[k0ua]

If you can coordinate it you will probably benefit from stepping on the rear diff lock lever too

It does get a little "busy" in the operators seat when you are stuck. left hand on the wheel, right hand real busy on the joystick, right foot on hydro pedal and left foot on the differential lock pedal. That is why I suggested practicing these maneuvers a bit when you are not actually stuck. It gets real interesting when you are on a muddy slope and the tractor is drifting sideways into a nice tree so that you get trapped and cannot move either forward or reverse without tearing something off.. yep, been there..

James K0UA

 

[crazyangel]

It does get a little "busy" in the operators seat when you are stuck. left hand on the wheel, right hand real busy on the joystick, right foot on hydro pedal and left foot on the differential lock pedal. That is why I suggested practicing these maneuvers a bit when you are not actually stuck. It gets real interesting when you are on a muddy slope and the tractor is drifting sideways into a nice tree so that you get trapped and cannot move either forward or reverse without tearing something off.. yep, been there..

James K0UA

Agreed! :steeringwheel:

 

[Baby Grand]

Make sure your FEL lock out lever isn't set to lock.
Don't even think about asking why I would mention this.

 

[case245]

i use this methed all the time on my 7040sud curl buck forward 3 inches put in ground then roll back it worked on my L3800 ALSO

 

[bullbreaker]

I have a L3940 with a LA724 FEL. On other tractors I have operated in the past you could push down on the FEL and push the tractor backwards or pull it forward and get the tractor unstuck. When I try this with the L3940 it's like the valves are bi passing and looses pressure and will not push or pull the tractor so I'm STUCK . Is this normal. I hope what I wrote makes sense.

Besides great advise given above when you get it "un-stuck" hook up a wet guage to it and check your pressure. Might need some bumping up.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/128908-bump-up-lift-capacity-l3400.html

Boone

 

[MHarryE]

Like mentioned above, if you curl the bucket too far in either direction you don't have much pulling or pushing force. I used to get myself out of trouble all the time by using the curl on my L3710, but the first time I got my L5740 stuck I thought I was screwed because it had no oomph once I got the front end lifted. Then I noticed the bucket curled further than the bucket on my old tractor so I set the front end back down, uncurled it a bit, and then had the power to lift and push myself out. That all worked fine until a few weeks back when I was really buried, tried to get myself out and quickly discovered that when I had switched from my pallet forks to the bucket I had forgot to latch. There I was sitting, all 4 wheels spinning, belly on the mud, and bucket lying on the ground out in front. Lesson learned - do not try to use the quick attach to get yourself out. I was able to manhandle the bucket back on the loader, lock it in place, and work myself out.

 

[kevinj]

I have a L3940 with a LA724 FEL. On other tractors I have operated in the past you could push down on the FEL and push the tractor backwards or pull it forward and get the tractor unstuck. When I try this with the L3940 it's like the valves are bi passing and looses pressure and will not push or pull the tractor so I'm STUCK . Is this normal. I hope what I wrote makes sense.

Are you pushing the lever past the regen detent????

 

[k0ua]

Are you pushing the lever past the regen detent????

Thats a good point if he was trying to pull himself forward and pushed the lever all the way to the right into regen, then of course he would have no power... what say you Original Poster? were you trying to push yourself backwards by curling? or trying to pull yourself forward? (doesn't work too well in any case)

James K0UA