Still a bit Confused....but

[BWa]

I know that a JD 5320 is not a compact , but many of you have given good advise as to needs/wants, bigger if you got the room is better . I have gone to the area dealers , looked at all the colors , and feel that the green is what has my heart .
Now the big question , I have gone to my local dealers , and I think JD lists them as compact tractor sales , both are willing to sale and service The 5320 with FEL and sale me a Tiller that will fit . I have also gone online to JD and found the list for AG tractor dealers . Now it gets hard the one in my state (MA) did not have much in the way of 5000 series Tractor in stock and I got the feeling that I was not really wanted as a customer in that having talked to the sales person and asked if they would be around on a friday morning , was that that he was going to be in . I got to the dealership only to find he had left to go see other customers out on the road and that I was turned over to a jr. sales person . I got the feel I was interupting his coffee break and really did not act like he wanted the business .
I have also looked at 2 out of state dealers , NH ,both have been very good at answering questions and act like they want the business . I have no hope of getting around the state tax due on this but I question the service I will get and have to pay for after the fact when the dealer is 65 to 125 miles from me , a $1.00 a mile transport fee before any work done is not something iI look forward to . As to getting it fixed local , I was told that if I bought at another dealer the local dealers would not want to touch it or at best be the last thing they want to work on after everything esle is done .
As to the first price quote they all are about the same give or take 2-3 thousand , I have not talked any final deals with any of them or even know if they will give a better price for the Avg. $ 37,000. for a 5320 , Iso plateform , FEL, And tiller .
Sorry for the long story you all have been a great help before and your insite to this would be of great help now .
Thank You

 

[MajMac392]

BWa,

I know JD makes good stuff "but" when I was looking for a compact 4-5 years ago I received much of the same treatment you did. One local dealer here in Southern, ME. treated me like I was a non-person or something but a friend who has a farm swears by them. I never received calls back, offer to try one out, etc. I ended up with a Cub from a dealer that knew tractors & construction equipment, that took the time to let me drive them, etc.
Service location is a big part of buying but my Cub has only been back to the dealer once in 5 years. One other thing that is one of my pet peaves (sp) if I'm buying something with my hard earned dollars and I don't like the salesman or dealership for some reason I look elsewhere. They are not the only dealer and you need to have a good relationship if you're investing your money in something expensive. If you can't find an interested JD dealer close you might want to look at the other colors because I think most of the tractors seem to have similar features and most are very reliable. It then comes down to rather you prefer, Blue, Green, Orange, Yellow, etc. Happy buying,!

 

[Anonymous Poster]

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.vicinity.com/yt.hm?FAM=deere&SEC=geoprx&CMD=GEOFIND&FC=COMPTRACTOR&FS=&AD2=&CITY=&STATE=&ZIP=02379&AD4=US&Products=COMPTRACTOR>John Deere Compact Tractor Dealers near West Bridgewater, MA</A>

Bill,
I don't really follow the "new" prices, but it sounds about $10K. too high...

For 20 acres, I don't want to hit you in the head and say 55 PTO hp is overkill, but... /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif (also absolutely great tractor by the way /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif (5320))...

Have you considered the JD 5X05 advantage series...?

In-line, I attached a list of JD compact dealers, you can call on the phone for inventory availability and price shopping... however the avg. compact dealer normally won't stock the utility size 5320... {check with AG dealers - more so}, but while you're on the phone, also check pricing on the 5205 units... and instead of buying a <font color=green>Green</font color=green> tiller for <font color=red>$$$</font color=red>... take a look at a KingKutter tiller for around $1000. for about the best value for your money...

 

[Thomas]

Bill,
Try and make your new tractor search enjoyable,for you have pros and cons to figure out..tractor size,attachments,dealership location,$$$.
Test the tractor at the dealer or at home if you can,study the spec sheets,talk w/locals and listen to there views about dealership that your interested in doing business.
Most of all go w/your gut feeling,for your making long term investment,for a good share of us here have been thru what you are facing.

Good luck w/your quest.

 

[Woodbeef]

Yes,Deere does make some good tractors,but so do the others. I'd take a look at the price configurer on the Deere web site,especially since John thinks it is a tad high priced according to your quotes.

I've never been a big fan of the 5000 series myself,it just does not look like a usable ag-tractor to me. More like a kids Tonka toy,I guess really.

Have you looked into Valtra yet? If not do yourself a favor and find a dealer for them. They make a well designed, overly built, dependable tractor at a very competitive price. Check them out at http://www.valtra.com

As for the dealers being distant,do not worry if you buy a well engineered and built piece of equipment that is maintained,you should not need the dealer for much.

Do not buy into the arrogant dealers hype that you have to run a Deere,because they are the best,and that Solid,Stable,Still......bs. Try them all out for a demo at your place,spend some seat time even if it's only driving around for hours on end,then make your decision on what feels best for you!

 

[BWa]

I will agree that at this point and time the 5320 is a bit much ,....... but having talked to the real farmers in the area as to my wannabe ....... they have worked or know someone who has worked this small piece. That and the fact I may have to take care of the whole thing some day , They feel that the 64hp / 55 hp PTO will be the right size to do it all if and when the time comes , plowing , and or hay baling this will do it , maybe not fast but it will get the jobs done and not kill itself doing it .
In that this is my first tractor I have found the forum to be most helpful and am very greatful to all your help and insite words cann't express the thankfulness I have for all you in all that has been shared here.
As to dealers , I am just not sure if a good price up front is better than a price a little higher and a more local dealer and how can you rate service short of being there ?
Bill G.

 

[cowboydoc]

Bill,
You're making the right decision going bigger. Having more than enough power is NEVER a problem but having too little is ALWAYS a problem. I can't understand the dealers in other areas. Around here they are all nice as can be. They bend over backwards with service and hospitality. You don't see any of the stuff that I hear at other places. Just as an example on my new gator I caught the gate and broke the new fender. I called the dealer and said what happened and to get me a new one. Well that afternoon they came out and replaced it while I was at work for NO CHARGE, parts and all. I hadn't even asked them to replace it and had fully planned on paying for the new one as it was my fault. As far as dealer service you can take deere's to anyone around here and they will work on them in warranty or not.

As far as price goes I'd go for the lesser price. You will find that you will probably need very little done to that tractor, if ever, while it is warranty. After warranty I would find yourself a good mechanic that isn't in a shop. As good as the service at $50 and higher an hour compared to $20 an hour for an independent that's the way I go. I do all my own service and minor mechanic work so I rarely need one. The times that I do they have been more than helpful. Besides unless you are there all the time and buying from them all the time they aren't going to remember you much anyway.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

More power can be a problem, if you have more power then you need, you will find yourself buying larger implements, it is instinct so don't ask me to explain it. Once you have larger implements you find yourself wishing you had an even bigger tractor so do yourself a favor and buy a JD 9520 then you should be ok for a few months.

 

[BWa]

Lol
Rob
I don't know , I am now think you many be right ,, Lol That the JD 9520 might be just about the right size for my little 20 acre Wannabe hobby , type farm ....I will give this some more thought and crunch the numbers ,,, maybe able to make a deal if I buy more than 1 ...... You care to buy the second one , at 1 .999 x the cost ?
8 )
Thank You ALL
Bill G.
It is said we only pass this way once, and some of us , twice if we are not luck ,,,,,,

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Large vs. small is not necessarily the issue. Before you buy the tractor try to think of everything you'll want to do with the machine. That includes all the possible implements you might need AND the specific requirements those implements have. You need to consider the lay of your land and whether that affects the ability to operate a tractor safely.

You're not going to be comfortable and safe operating a larger tractor with a high center of gravity on slopes. As far as considering implements such as a tiller you have to figure how much you can cover in one pass. If you want to cover the area from outside of wheel to outside of wheel you have to buy a wide implement or you may find that you have to buy one that can be offset and do the work but take two passes. Either will have hp requirements that may or may not match your tractor whether it is large or small unless you do homework before buying the tractor. FWIW 30hp is plenty for running a square baler.

If the layout of your land poses maneuverability issues you may find that a smaller tractor will work where a larger tractor will be inpractical.

As far as JD dealers being difficult to deal with, that was one of the reasons I bought a Kubota. I didn't want to deal with a JD dealer after the sale and there are three within an hour and a half..

 

[poorboy]

Bill,
I went with a deere 5410 2-wd with FEL last spring at about 23,900 or something close to that. I put about 260 hours on it last summer cutting and baling hay. I mostly roll up some 4x4 rolls with a 335 jd baler. I used a 4000 ford with around 50hp for about 10 years with this baler no problem. I went with the 54xx because we decided to double the operation after dad retired. The 5310 was really in the running for us and would have done the job except of the prospects of enlarging again in a few years and upgrading some equipment. Especially the roller size and bushhog. New Holland 5030, I think, as well as a Kubota 6800 were also possibilities. Dealers as well as physical size were also factors. All I will say about dealers in my area is that they were all in together and would spit out a price and stick with it pretty much with maybe some room for neg. in the area of implements. They all priced me the same tractor sitting on a lot in Bowling Green according to their computer.
If I had it to do over I would probably have made the same choice for my situation. I would have gone with the 53xx if I didn't need the extra weight and the fourth cylinder less the turbo. I probably would have gained the needed weight with the four wheel drive front. The 53xx sounds like it would be big enough for the future and not too large for your present situation. Remember you will need a second tractor if you enlarge to a farming operation. On the down side the 50xx and smaller tractors will be able to do lots of things and get into areas that the larger can't. I'm not sure about the sidling ground and top heaviness question since I'm too squimish but I do feel like I'm perched up higher on the 5410.
Listen to what the others guys here say, they were the most helpful to me last year on my purchase. I can't say enough good things about this board.

 

[BWa]

I have found a dealer that I feel i can work with , But life is funny ,it has thrown the issuse of money in to question ......... When I started this it was there , but now may have to go to other commitments ... and the ever loved Taxman ..........8(
Again Thank You All , Even if I must hold off a bit longer in my purchasethe information I have learned here will always be of use ........

As to the land , it is for the most part flat , or very gentle slope.......I can only think of two places that if you drive in to the ditch that may be possible to roll a tractor .... The biggest problem would be sinking it out of site in soft ground or mud holes due to the natural drainage has been blocked and silted in off the property , so the water now backs up , Also the local town dam on the river has been reworked to a higher level for a second time after the original dam from the 1700's , broke in the 1970's . After this last rebuild it is now 2.5 feet higher than first built ........ I guess thats one way to make more wet land and hold down the builting boom , and to keep the sale of water pumps going , We pump 24/7 52 at my mom's place now ,,,, and will get as much as 2 feet of water on a high flood time in winter if we stop pumping ...... makes for one to think about blowing up that !@#$%^&* dam ,

The Wet Land Wannabe Farmer
Bill G.

 

[Williy]

Have you seen this?

they have the YT347 & YT359

willy

 

[old and tired]

Zombie thread... 20 years old and the OP was Last seen on Jul 24, 2005...

 

[Rdrcr]

^^^^
Willy seems to enjoy reviving incredibly old threads and sharing videos on the brand/model tractor he recently purchased. He’s done this in numerous threads....

I’m not even sure he realizes it...

Mike

 

[MoKelly]

^^^^
Willy seems to enjoy reviving incredibly old threads and sharing videos on the brand/model tractor he recently purchased. He’s done this in numerous threads....

I’m not even sure he realizes it...

Mike

Is Willy really Someone else reincarnated? A cajun?

MoKelly

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Willy is just trying to boost his YouTube counts

 

[Williy]

Sorry if I bother y'all its just that I don;t know if they are aware
of another tractor that's on the market

willy
happiness is wanting what you have not wanting what you don't

 

[Rdrcr]

Sorry if I bother y'all its just that I don;t know if they are aware
of another tractor that's on the market

willy
happiness is wanting what you have not wanting what you don't

You ain't bothering anybody...I don't think. Just wanted to make sure you knew that this thread is 19 years old.

I'm sure the OP has already purchased a tractor (or two) or decided they didn't need one.

Mike