Starting your tractor in the winter.

[RoyJackson]

I'm missing your point? Are you saying driving a tractor out of a warm garage a couple of times of year in winter is something else to worry about?
What's you condensation theory on the alternative of leaving it outside to change temperature with each passing day and night?

The point is to not just start the machine, move it out of the garage and then shut down. If you have a reason to start the tractor and work it, that's one thing...but to just start it to "start it" (with no task at hand) isn't a good thing. It takes heat and time to evaporate condensation.
Leaving the machine outside would be OK...I think most of us park them inside to prevent sun damage and such...or theft. But it's better if you have a block heater if you leave it outside...makes winter starts much easier.

 

[Egon]

I'm missing your point? Are you saying driving a tractor out of a warm garage a couple of times of year in winter is something else to worry about?
What's you condensation theory on the alternative of leaving it outside to change temperature with each passing day and night?

In the area I grew up in the Farmers who used their tractors DAILY found it better to keep the shop/garage/shed just below freezing due to condensation problems. Empirically gained data by others I have no reason to argue with. The same would apply to a vehicle.

 

[dave1949]

In the area I grew up in the Farmers who used their tractors DAILY found it better to keep the shop/garage/shed just below freezing due to condensation problems. Empirically gained data by others I have no reason to argue with. The same would apply to a vehicle.

I read something years ago that vehicles parked in a heated garage in winter rust more than those parked outside. I think road salt has a lot to do with that situation. Oxidation is an endothermic process, adding heat increases it, plus liquid water versus frozen water will improve the oxidation rate.

Maybe those old farmers' only heated space option was a barn full of animals and humid air?

 

[Egon]

I read something years ago that vehicles parked in a heated garage in winter rust more than those parked outside. I think road salt has a lot to do with that situation. Oxidation is an endothermic process, adding heat increases it, plus liquid water versus frozen water will improve the oxidation rate.

Maybe those old farmers' only heated space option was a barn full of animals and humid air?

The farmers I'm referring to had proper shops for their equipment.

 

[RaydaKub]

Rpm IS NOT directly tied to rpms and the number of turns.

Uhhh, is that a typo? Otherwise, please explain what you mean.

 

[TomSeller]

I have a few diesels that can start without their glow plugs at fairly cold temperatures. After reading this thread, I am thinking that I should glow them even though they do not need it to start.

 

[buickanddeere]

Uhhh, is that a typo? Otherwise, please explain what you mean.

ummmmm yeah that wasn't very good.

Wear IS NOT directly tied to rpms and the number of turns.

 

[buickanddeere]

I have a few diesels that can start without their glow plugs at fairly cold temperatures. After reading this thread, I am thinking that I should glow them even though they do not need it to start.

The glow plugs do not heat the entire engine. Just a wee heating element in a corner of the combustion chamber. Not even related to heating the engine with a block heater regarding wear or starter load..

 

[rsallen]

If wear is not related to rpms or to the number of turns (what in the world does 'the number of turns' mean?) then engines would last for ever.

Let's get this straight, every single revolution of an engine causes wear. I don't care how many different ways you want to cut it or how the revolutions are made whether by hand, starter, at idle or under load....you are going to have some wear on the engine.

Wear not related to the number of revolutions is one of the most inane things I ever heard.

 

[TomSeller]

The glow plugs do not heat the entire engine. Just a wee heating element in a corner of the combustion chamber. Not even related to heating the engine with a block heater regarding wear or starter load..

Totally understand that but it seems any heat would help.