cqaigy2
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Gpon baby!
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LittleBill21
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lol not really, the point of gpon, was to use less fiber, and use splitters. a single fiber line can be split up over 100 times, if the signal quality is good enough and the runs are short enough.
extra strands are good, if a line gets damaged or more bandwidth is needed. most fiber runs need 2 strands per connection
cqaigy2
Super Member
First time a ran into gpon, was an install in an apartment complex, probably 10 years ago.
ning
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I needed to run fiber for my solar array, because the smart system controller is at the combiner box and it needs to talk to the power switch and batteries, which are about 500' straight-line from the combiner (array is in the field, switch is in the shop). The system typically is all clustered together and usually uses ZigBee to communicate but in my case we had to hop a USB connection across the distance - and 600' (the trench isn't straight) is too far for Ethernet, so it was fiber.
I ran 4 strands - 1 was needed for the USB-over-Fiber, 1 or 2 for future expansion (who knows what), and one more in case something was wrong with the other fibers... and then one more because it was a choice of 1, 2, 4, n+2.
The price difference between 1 and 4 was pretty minor (like $50 or so) and compared to wasted time and more labor replacing the line there was a problem for me made for an easy decision.
I tested all four strands and they're all good; we'll see if I ever need more. I chalk up the success to thwarting Murphy's law by getting more than I needed.
I ran 4 strands - 1 was needed for the USB-over-Fiber, 1 or 2 for future expansion (who knows what), and one more in case something was wrong with the other fibers... and then one more because it was a choice of 1, 2, 4, n+2.
The price difference between 1 and 4 was pretty minor (like $50 or so) and compared to wasted time and more labor replacing the line there was a problem for me made for an easy decision.
I tested all four strands and they're all good; we'll see if I ever need more. I chalk up the success to thwarting Murphy's law by getting more than I needed.
LittleBill21
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they make extenders to allow ethernet to go farther then 300 feet, I think 1500 meters and it will push POE to a degree.
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cqaigy2
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Good plan, if you are going to run one, run more, nothing worse than standing there and saying, dang, i wished i run more fiber. Been there after the fact, when i said to the customer, why did they run one pair??
I am 560 feet of cat 5e from my basement router to my solar array to connect it to the fronius online web monitoring. No issues.
LittleBill21
Elite Member
I know its just a certification, I have seen installs upwards of 700+ feet at 10mbit., you can add dsl boxes, and go miles too.
TJL442
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My Starlink is supposed to be delivered on Tuesday and I can't wait, neither can my 18 year old computer geek of a son. We've been using Viasat, works fine for most internet browsing, but streaming and games are awful for the most part. Couldn't due cellular as we have to run a booster to get 1-2 bars in the house. I still wouldn't trade a thing to be able to live out here. The peace and quiet and wildlife and woods trump anything else.
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kcflhrc
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That is just not true. Who told you that? Let me guess, you read it on the internet
kcflhrc
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It's more than a certification. It's all about performance. And what kind of DSL Box extends ethernet?
LittleBill21
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LOL, I do it for a living. Most people don't use Bidi, this includes enterprise and commercial customers. I didn't want to complicate the thread.
LittleBill21
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you can use something like this.
Feel free to input your own solutions, other then pissing all over other peoples.
I am keeping this simple, feel free to ignore my options if YOU don't want to use them.
ning
Elite Member
That's dsl extender is pretty cool.
Personally I wouldn't depend on Ethernet (ie cat 5/6) past 100m, because "specifications" mean something and if I'm going to put a wire in a ditch that far I want to know it's in spec and I have good expectation that it'll work more than "this seems to work even though it's revved past redline!"; in my case I went with fiber, but something like this vdsl extender would also do the job (in spec).
LittleBill21
Elite Member
There is a lot more to it then that, if you scroll further up, there is another extender kit above, that will push poe as well out to about 1500 feet.
tons of different options. pretty easy anymore. glad your setup is working well for you.
In my case it is only to monitor my solar invertors. Just figured why spend extra $ if it works for what I needed it for and it works just fine for that application at 500+ feet.
kcflhrc
Veteran Member
As do I. When you say things like it takes 2 fibers that statement is quite misleading .
LittleBill21
Elite Member
I used the word "most". No need to complicate matters here.
Fallon
Super Member
Up until recently all commercial gear used 2 fibers. 1 for send & 1 for receive. Some newer gear can use different wavelengths of light on the same fiber to only use 1 strand. But that's a bit less common.
No clue how the interconental type fiber is setup, but everything in an office building or data center until recently was 2 strands.