If it's too hard for you, you should just skip it.... instead of criticizing it.
Buying Advice soooo appreciative for tractor buying advice PLEASE!
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thank you for this. you (and the hubs) were the final straw now--I don't need the stump grinder. you're right we can use other implements to accomplish task. yay! going to start researching Mahindra, Kioti and LS ALSO! soooo appreciative.
will report back.
Terri
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Terri
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oosik
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Sooo...... you now have 34 acres and 35-40 trees that need to come down. Your 1500 pound pines should be less than 50 feet tall and less than 12" in diameter at the butt. This is not a problem if you know how to use a chainsaw. And with 27 acres of pines - its best that you learn - and from somebody that knows what they are doing. Use your connections - go talk to a neighbor - find someone that can help you learn to use a chainsaw CORRECTLY.
Stump grinder - it may sound exciting but you really only need this implement if you have trees in your immediate yard. Out in your woods - just let nature take care of them - they will soon rot away. You are going to find there are a lot more important tasks that will need your attention.
Your tractor is 33 engine horse power, 28 pto hp. It can be retrofitted with a grapple and is big enough to move your fallen pines. You will have to cut them to the appropriate size so you don't overload the tractor/grapple. Go to Forrestryforum.com and you can calculate the weight of your pines and the length to cut them to.
In the future you will build a home on the property. A tractor is NOT the proper equipment to build the driveway. However, it will be used to maintain the driveway - snow removal and occasional grading.
If you decide to purchase a bigger tractor - it should be because you have jobs/tasks that definitely require a larger machine. Bigger normally only means faster and a smaller tractor normally only takes more time. However - there are exceptions - and for those you want to consider, do you do them yourself or hire it out.
You need to consider items such as - driveway maintenance, forestry maintenance (thinning, hauling and chipping young trees to improve your stands), mowing your fields, landscaping(moving large rock, creating terraces, digging ditches etc) are you going have animals, have hay fields and mow/bale your own hay.
Choosing the correct tractor does need some long range planning. With proper maintenance a tractor can easily last a lifetime.
However - to allay your fears - very few of us have had only one tractor. There is always going to be that time when a bigger tractor goes beyond just your wishes and is necessary to complete a task. My first tractor that I had for 25 years was 28 hp - I've now moved to a 64 hp tractor because all the small jobs were finally completed.
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Stump grinder - it may sound exciting but you really only need this implement if you have trees in your immediate yard. Out in your woods - just let nature take care of them - they will soon rot away. You are going to find there are a lot more important tasks that will need your attention.
Your tractor is 33 engine horse power, 28 pto hp. It can be retrofitted with a grapple and is big enough to move your fallen pines. You will have to cut them to the appropriate size so you don't overload the tractor/grapple. Go to Forrestryforum.com and you can calculate the weight of your pines and the length to cut them to.
In the future you will build a home on the property. A tractor is NOT the proper equipment to build the driveway. However, it will be used to maintain the driveway - snow removal and occasional grading.
If you decide to purchase a bigger tractor - it should be because you have jobs/tasks that definitely require a larger machine. Bigger normally only means faster and a smaller tractor normally only takes more time. However - there are exceptions - and for those you want to consider, do you do them yourself or hire it out.
You need to consider items such as - driveway maintenance, forestry maintenance (thinning, hauling and chipping young trees to improve your stands), mowing your fields, landscaping(moving large rock, creating terraces, digging ditches etc) are you going have animals, have hay fields and mow/bale your own hay.
Choosing the correct tractor does need some long range planning. With proper maintenance a tractor can easily last a lifetime.
However - to allay your fears - very few of us have had only one tractor. There is always going to be that time when a bigger tractor goes beyond just your wishes and is necessary to complete a task. My first tractor that I had for 25 years was 28 hp - I've now moved to a 64 hp tractor because all the small jobs were finally completed.
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I typically pull trees over and out of the ground with my MX. It is quicker and I don't have to dig stumps. However, I do have to lift them and take them somewhere to cut up and burn. When I have to cut trees down, then I dig up the stumps so that I don't get the depression caused when the stump finally rots away.
Given the size of your property and the number of trees, you started out well; but it is a tradeoff. Save your back and speed up the job with a larger tractor with implements or save money while work is more difficult and slower. For many of us; time is more valuable than our budgets. I get only one day per week to jump into tasks with both feet, so I capitalize on my time with a larger tractor. When I was younger, I could not afford one; but my arms and back didn't suffer as much.
I do hope you find a solution that works well for you - and, used tractors can be nearly as expensive as new ones unless you discover the guy on Craig's List that can't afford to wait for a wealthy buyer.
Given the size of your property and the number of trees, you started out well; but it is a tradeoff. Save your back and speed up the job with a larger tractor with implements or save money while work is more difficult and slower. For many of us; time is more valuable than our budgets. I get only one day per week to jump into tasks with both feet, so I capitalize on my time with a larger tractor. When I was younger, I could not afford one; but my arms and back didn't suffer as much.
I do hope you find a solution that works well for you - and, used tractors can be nearly as expensive as new ones unless you discover the guy on Craig's List that can't afford to wait for a wealthy buyer.
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I would again mention skill set regarding chainsawing. If you and hubs can get the trees down SAFELY, you're at least half way there. If NOT then you need to find the safest and most economical way to get them on the ground. Once there you can cut them up into whatever sized bits to fit the equipment on site.
Certainly a Kioti would be excellent bang for $$. If they're around, used or new, check them out for sure. As stated, dealer location less of an issue , especially if bought new.
I'd think long and hard BEFORE going out to buy any tractor, new or used exactly what the budget is.
Excellent points about used market not being as much a of a potential bargain as a used car. I do just the opposite, I try to buy everything new, because I don't want to deal with other's left over problems, and gives me a long warranty period to use to work out any manufacturer's bugs. And I like new and shiny, but realize I'm going to pay for same. I'm getting too old to deal with breakdowns from used cars/etc. So I pay a premium. Not everyone can or wants to, and I fully respect that.
So access the entire situation, current needs, future uses, bang for $ available to spend, etc.
Did I punctuate properly?!:laughing:
Certainly a Kioti would be excellent bang for $$. If they're around, used or new, check them out for sure. As stated, dealer location less of an issue , especially if bought new.
I'd think long and hard BEFORE going out to buy any tractor, new or used exactly what the budget is.
Excellent points about used market not being as much a of a potential bargain as a used car. I do just the opposite, I try to buy everything new, because I don't want to deal with other's left over problems, and gives me a long warranty period to use to work out any manufacturer's bugs. And I like new and shiny, but realize I'm going to pay for same. I'm getting too old to deal with breakdowns from used cars/etc. So I pay a premium. Not everyone can or wants to, and I fully respect that.
So access the entire situation, current needs, future uses, bang for $ available to spend, etc.
Did I punctuate properly?!:laughing:
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I'm so in awe of such a thoughtful group of folks, willing to give a newbie gal their time and advice. Thank you, thank you. My husband and I both took off work today and went to the following dealers based on your advice:
1) Mahrinda
2) Kioti
3) LS
It was a gorgeous day for a 2 1/2 hour drive, and we had a ball checking out "other" tractors. In the end, we were sooo pleasantly surprised at the options that were standard with the LS XR4100 Series, the weight of it, the feel. I hear you on the new vs. used, and I also loved the look back at growth from small hp to larger hp over time--and kind of a view from 50,000 feet. Neat. You guys ROCK. :cool2:
So we are NOT going to rush into anything anymore. We are going to check into costs to retrofit my NH as well.
So here's a question: with what we're doing would we need category II implements? the LS only has cat. I hitch.
One last question: if the LS is a diesel does that mean it's LSD?
blahahahahaha!
T
1) Mahrinda
2) Kioti
3) LS
It was a gorgeous day for a 2 1/2 hour drive, and we had a ball checking out "other" tractors. In the end, we were sooo pleasantly surprised at the options that were standard with the LS XR4100 Series, the weight of it, the feel. I hear you on the new vs. used, and I also loved the look back at growth from small hp to larger hp over time--and kind of a view from 50,000 feet. Neat. You guys ROCK. :cool2:
So we are NOT going to rush into anything anymore. We are going to check into costs to retrofit my NH as well.
So here's a question: with what we're doing would we need category II implements? the LS only has cat. I hitch.
One last question: if the LS is a diesel does that mean it's LSD?
blahahahahaha!
T
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Don't worry about Cat 2 issues. 98% of us on TBN use Cat 1 exclusively. Unless you are a commercial farmer with a 60+hp utility tractor you won't have need for Cat 2 implements.
LS, Mahindra and Kioti are all excellent. Looks for the best deal and model that suits your needs. And, spend a bit more time defining your needs before purchase. Also, save some budget for implements. Some things like grapple and BH are best purchased new but you can often find box blades, rakes and bush hogs in good condition used on CL or auction sites.
LS, Mahindra and Kioti are all excellent. Looks for the best deal and model that suits your needs. And, spend a bit more time defining your needs before purchase. Also, save some budget for implements. Some things like grapple and BH are best purchased new but you can often find box blades, rakes and bush hogs in good condition used on CL or auction sites.
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Don't forget to check out Yanmar tractors. Made in Japan. They've been building diesels 100 years and have their US headquarters and several dealers in Georgia.
I've just had a crush on those tractors lately.
I've just had a crush on those tractors lately.
