Smoke or condensation?

[michaelTS354]

I got my Kama out to use for the first time at night, it was in the mid 40's and very damp feeling. After the tractor got warm it continued to exhaust white smoke, or could it have been condensation such as an automobile produces when its cold outside. It was hard to tell because the only light around was from my headlights. The tractor seeemed to run fine as I was just using the back blade to clean the horse stall. During the day it has only smoked at start up and a little until it is warm. The temp guage only got to around 80. Once again this the first time I have really got to use it, it has 4hrs on it. It has the factory fluids unless the dealer changed them. The 3 point lift works very quickly as does the power steering. I hope it was just exhaust steam and not smoke, but i dont know if diesels produce this like gasoline engines. Hopefully I can get it out again soon and see what it does in the day time.

 

[greg_g]

Most likely just condensation, not unlike seeing your own breath on a cold day. If it is particulate smoke - such as from incomplete combustion or incorrect fuel/air mixture - it will hang in the air like smoke - instead of dissipating immediately, like your breath.

//greg//

 

[michaelTS354]

Thank you Greg, I guess I was just a bit worried, I am going to inspect further next time I start it up. I just put my first tank of fuel in since i had gotten it, could there also be some water in the fuel? I bought the off road diesel fuel but now I am wondering if that was a good idea being I dont know how old it is since it isnt purchased as much . Another question I have if you dont mind is about using the 3 point. Since the lower pto lever has to be engaged for the 3 point lift to work should I put the speed selection lever in neutral since i dont need the pto shaft while using the rear blade? Other than that I love my Kama so far and hope for many years of use and enjoyment.

 

[joerocker]

When fuel burns it produces water.

That is why you get that "condensation", white "smoke", out of the tailpipe on a cold day. After the exhaust pipe heats up it will completely evaporate the water and you won't see anything. Same with a car, once it warms up you don't see it unless it's VERY cold or VERY damp.

Don't worry about it unless like the other guy said, it "hangs". Now if it's like -40 outside, water vapor will "hang" too.

 

[bluechip]

Hi Michael, welcom to the Chinese tractor board on TBN.
On your TS354, go ahead and cut that lever by your left heal so that it is only a couple inches long, that way you can use it if you have to disconnect your hydraulic drive or PTO but will not accidently disengage it. I do not recommend using this lever to control your PTO. this liver slides a collal over the ends of two spined shafts. If either of the shafts is turning when you try to engage, you will get a grinding sound, some have tryed to force the engagement only to burr the endsof the collar making it impossible to engage. The best way to turn the PTO on and off is to select netural on the PTO lever.
Never attach an implement while the engine is running!

Do you have a TS354C or TS354X?

 

[JINMA224XR]

<font color="blue"> I just put my first tank of fuel in since i had gotten it, could there also be some water in the fuel? </font>

Hey Michael,

It's probably nothing to worry about in your situation.

But just so that you will know. A tank that is not full will collect condensation inside the tank, and the less fuel in the tank, the more condensation will collect. Over time, that condensation, can be a significant amount of water inside the tank. That is why, in small planes, they fill the tanks up, before parking, so as not to risk water getting into the fuel lines, which can make for an exciting flight, especially on TakeOff.

Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[greg_g]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( could there also be some water in the fuel? )</font>
Unless you can actually SEE water in the sediment bowl, I wouldn't worry much about water in the fuel tank. The specific gravity of diesel fuel is such that water will be at the bottom of the tank. If/when it gets to the point where it enters the fuel line, it has to go to/through the sediment bowl. If you check the sediment bowl regularly, water will be visible on the bottom of the sediment bowl. At that point you want to disconnect the fuel line and drain out about the bottom three inches from the tank. That'll take care of the water - till next time.

//greg//

 

[michaelTS354]

Hello Chip, it is the 354C. Thanks to all the replies. I have 7 hours on it after today and am going to change engine oil soon. What is the best choice for oil filter. I read on here of a NAPA filter but you have to back out the the threads so the filter will grap them to tighten up. Do I have any other choices other than that?

Michael

 

[bluechip]

We have been recommending the NAPA 1516 or equivelent. sometimes you ahve to turn the threaded nipple the filter screws onto out some to reach the concave top of the US filter, the China filters are dished upward.

 

[michaelTS354]

I referenced back the 1516 oil filter on the NAPA sight and it is for a 2001 Ford Ranger 2.5 4 cyl. I hope this helps some other TS354C owners so they may be able to purchase another brand if desired or if there is no local NAPA store.

 

[kyspartan]

here is all the cars that the wix 51516 fits, wix makes the napa 1516

Applications for part 51516

Make Model Engine
CHRYSLER PT CRUISER L4 2.4L 2429cc
CHRYSLER PT CRUISER CONVERTIBLE L4 2.4L 2429cc
DODGE NEON L4 2.4L 2429cc
DODGE NEON (SRT-4) L4 2.4L 2429cc
DODGE LIGHT TRUCKS DAKOTA V6 3.7L 226 CID
DODGE LIGHT TRUCKS DURANGO V6 3.7L 226 CID
DODGE LIGHT TRUCKS PICKUP RAM SERIES - ALL L6 3.7L 225 CID
EXCEL+Turf Machines 400 w/Ford VSG411 Engine
EXCEL+Turf Machines 440 w/Ford VSG411 Engine
FORD ESCORT/ESCORT EXP L4 1.6L 98 CID
FORD ESCORT/ESCORT EXP L4 1.9L 116 CID
FORD ESCORT/ESCORT EXP L4 2.0L 121 CID
FORD EXP L4 1.6L 98 CID
FORD FOCUS L4 2.0L 121 CID
FORD MUSTANG V6 3.8L 232 CID
FORD MUSTANG V6 3.9L 238 CID
FORD PROBE V6 3.0L 183 CID
FORD TAURUS V6 3.0L 183 CID
FORD TAURUS V6 3.2L 195 CID
FORD TAURUS V6 3.8L 232 CID
FORD TAURUS V8 3.4L 207 CID
FORD TEMPO V6 3.0L 183 CID
FORD THUNDERBIRD V6 3.8L 232 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS AEROSTAR V6 3.0L 183 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS FREESTAR V6 3.9L 241 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS FREESTAR V6 4.2L 256 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS PICKUP F-SERIES (ALL) V6 4.2L 256 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS PICKUP F150 ALL V6 4.2L 256 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS PICKUP F150 ALL V8 4.6L 281 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS PICKUP F150 HERITAGE V6 4.2L 256 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS PICKUP F150 SUPERCREW V8 4.6L 281 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS RANGER L4 2.3L 141 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS RANGER L4 2.5L 153 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS RANGER V6 3.0L 183 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS VAN E-SERIES ALL V6 4.2L 256 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS WINDSTAR V6 3.0L 183 CID
FORD LIGHT TRUCKS WINDSTAR V6 3.8L 232 CID
FORD TRUCKS+Also Refer To Light Truck Section E150 w/Ford V6-256 (4.2L) Gas Engine
FORD TRUCKS+Also Refer To Light Truck Section E250 w/Ford V6-256 (4.2L) Gas Engine
GEHL+Loaders 4525 w/Ford VSG413 Gas Engine
GEHL+Loaders SL3510 w/Ford I-67 Engine
GEHL+Loaders SL3515 w/Ford I-67 Engine
GEHL+Loaders SL3725 w/Ford 411 Engine
GEHL+Loaders SL3725 w/Kubota B1305E Engine
GEHL+Loaders SL4510 w/Ford I-79 Engine
GEHL+Loaders SL4515 w/Ford I-79 Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P100DWD w/Deutz F3L1011 Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P100DWD w/Deutz F3M1011F Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P100EWD w/Deutz F3L1011 Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P100EWD w/Deutz F3M1011F Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P100FWD w/Deutz F3L1011 Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P100FWD w/Deutz F3M1011F Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P125DWD w/Deutz F3L1011 Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P125DWD w/Deutz F3M1011F Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P125EWD w/Deutz F3L1011 Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P125EWD w/Deutz F3M1011F Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P125FWD w/Deutz F3L1011 Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P125FWD w/Deutz F3M1011F Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P130WD w/Deutz F3M1011F Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P180WD w/Deutz F4L1011 Engine
INGERSOLL-RAND+Compressors P260WD w/Deutz BF4L1011 Engine
JACOBSEN+Mowers SV3422 w/Ford VSG411 Engine
JEEP COMMANDER V6 3.7L 226 CID
JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE V6 3.7L 226 CID
JEEP LIBERTY L4 2.8L Common Rail Diesel
JEEP LIBERTY V6 3.7L 226 CID
LINCOLN CONTINENTAL V6 3.8L 232 CID
LINCOLN LS V6 3.0L 182 CID
MAZDA PICKUP B2300 L4 2.3L 141 CID
MAZDA PICKUP B2500 L4 2.5L 153 CID
MAZDA PICKUP B3000 V6 3.0L 183 CID
MELROE BOBCAT+Loaders 542B w/Ford Gas Engine
MERCURY COUGAR V6 3.8L 232 CID
MERCURY LN 7 L4 1.6L 98 CID
MERCURY LYNX L4 1.6L 98 CID
MERCURY LYNX L4 1.9L 116 CID
MERCURY MONTEREY V6 4.2L 256 CID
MERCURY SABLE V6 3.0L 183 CID
MERCURY SABLE V6 3.8L 232 CID
MERCURY TOPAZ V6 3.0L 183 CID
MERCURY TRACER L4 1.9L 116 CID
MERCURY TRACER L4 2.0L 121 CID
MITSUBISHI RAIDER V6 3.7L 225 CID
NEW HOLLAND+Loaders L454 w/Ford VSG411 Engine
NEW HOLLAND+Loaders L464 w/Ford VSG413 Engine
TORO+Tractors Groundsmaster 300D w/Ford 45 HP Engine
TORO+Tractors Hydroject Aerator 3000 w/Onan 24 HP Engine

 

[Harrygoodwrench]

WIX makes the filters for NAPA. The WIX number is 51516. When the package for NAPA they drop the first 5. WIX makes a good filter. The NAPA 1516 fits many applications including some diesels. The specs can be found at the link below. Type in 51516 in WIX part # and follow all applications.
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp

 

[JINMA224XR]

<font color="blue"> I referenced back the 1516 oil filter on the NAPA sight and it is for a 2001 Ford Ranger 2.5 4 cyl. I hope this helps some other TS354C owners so they may be able to purchase another brand if desired or if there is no local NAPA store.
</font>

Hey Michael,

I learned long ago, when it comes to oil filters, to stay with OEM, for as long as I can get them. They are made to fit and are recommended by the Engine Manufacturer. That goes for fuel filters as well. Not only do you have to worry about fit, but also the proper back pressure and filtering capacity, that a different filter will be.

I go by the Old Golden Rule, "If It Ain't Broke, Then Don't Try To Fix It".

I use all OEM Filters, Oil, Fuel and Air. I get mine from JinmaParts.com, and never have to leave the house. I'm sure that there is an OEM supplier for you as well.

If or When, there comes a time, that we cannot get them, then that will be another matter, and at that time, will require a FIX.

I'm not saying that the Crossover Filters are bad, but I am saying that it is extra unnessary time and work to find a filter that will fit, or to customise a fiting so that a crossover filter will fit and then risking how the crossover filter will affect the engines lubrication system. Then on top of that, when or if the new owner comes along and tries to put on the OEM filter, it may or may not fit, because of modifications made.

Just my humble opinion.

Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif