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[Too many Kubotas]

It's much more difficult with a newer vehicle equipped with TC and Stablitrak.

Thankfully, on the ones that have traction control I can turn it off.

One that bugs me is the Challenger GT AWD since it engages the front when the temp is 40 or below (among other avoidable things), which is generally every morning here for nine months or so of the year.

I've started looking at the wiring diagrams to find the best place to interrupt the system with a simple switch. It's possible that the newly acquired Durango has the same setup, but that's still unconfirmed.

Unlike the Challenger, there's nothing in the EVIC that tells me if the AWD is on or off. Might have to use AlfaOBD on that one to find out. At least I've managed to get rid of the the tiny battery for the stop/start function on it.

 

[Eagle1]

If it jumped of the hitch it would crush the bed sides, seen that a few time here. Most likely he unhooked did not pull clear before lowering the front or engaged auto level. That will dip the front of the trailer way down at the beginning of the level sequence.

 

[4570Man]

If it jumped of the hitch it would crush the bed sides, seen that a few time here. Most likely he unhooked did not pull clear before lowering the front or engaged auto level. That will dip the front of the trailer way down at the beginning of the level sequence.

He’s got a gooseneck adapter that might have held it up enough to save the bed sides.

 

[Eagle1]

He’s got a gooseneck adapter that might have held it up enough to save the bed sides.

Gooseneck would take a jolt to jump off (like going up steep bumpy hill) and is unlikely to happen in slow transport. Kingpin will slide out almost as soon as you start in most cases if not locked in.
I've seen both types loose a unit going up a hill on the way out of here. Gooseneck was never locked and the other the king pin lock engaged but did not lock (not maintained).
Almost 20 years at the park I've more way to screw up than you can imagine....many do it even when told they are about to destroy something.
I even had one forget to put nuts on his fifth wheel hitch mounting bolts. Well he had one installed, bent that hitch to holy hell. I took it to my shop and massaged it enough to work good enough to get the unit out of here to a shop.

 

[California]

One that bugs me is the Challenger GT AWD since it engages the front when the temp is 40 or below (among other avoidable things), which is generally every morning here for nine months or so of the year.

I've started looking at the wiring diagrams to find the best place to interrupt the system with a simple switch.

I hope that Challenger handles better that my 80's AMC Eagle did. It was RWD with a viscous coupling to engage the front axle when F/R axle rpm's differed. First year version, the front axle couldn't be disengaged.

It was terrifying to put into a slide on a slippery gravel curve. You could control the radius perfectly but had no control over which way the nose would be pointed as you completed the curve. A disappointment after real 4x4's, Willys and Wagoneers, that could be controlled expertly and faster.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Haven't tried the AWD Challenger on gravel or dirt yet. but on pavement it's better at flinging around curves than the 6.2 Challenger is.

At first I credited the AWD, but now I'm relatively sure that it's due to the lower weight of the engine.

And I'm all for making whatever I want to work by moving the appropriate levers.

 

[Dftodd]

It's much more difficult with a newer vehicle equipped with TC and Stablitrak.

It's actually super easy with one of those vehicles. Just shut the traction control off and have fun

 

[bigtiller]

I like drifting. That's one reason I don't mind snow and ice.

Much easier to go sideways then, and it's doable at much lower speeds.

So do I.
The night before I became a father, we were sliding around corners and doing donuts in empty parking lots during a major snow storm.

We paid the price though. Soon after the fun was over we had to drive 25 miles in that blizzard to get to the hospital.

 

[masseyrider]

It's actually super easy with one of those vehicles. Just shut the traction control off and have fun

When I got my first vehicle with awd it snowed pretty hard over night.
Being curious how well it worked I went out to a mall parking lot with a friend.
I turned off the TC and started a slide. Told my friend to turn the TC on (button was middle of the dash) and I was amazed how quickly we went from a slide to straight where I had the wheels pointed.
I have gotten stuck with AWD as it isn't 4 wheel drive. But in urban settings during the winter it makes for a much safer drive. You can't be an idiot obviously.

 

[Dftodd]

When I got my first vehicle with awd it snowed pretty hard over night.
Being curious how well it worked I went out to a mall parking lot with a friend.
I turned off the TC and started a slide. Told my friend to turn the TC on (button was middle of the dash) and I was amazed how quickly we went from a slide to straight where I had the wheels pointed.
I have gotten stuck with AWD as it isn't 4 wheel drive. But in urban settings during the winter it makes for a much safer drive. You can't be an idiot obviously.

I actually have to shut my traction control off in my F550 service truck on a couple different jobsites. It's to get up steep gravely hills.

The traction control will actually stall the truck out and prevent me from getting up the steep grades. They aren't very long. But your crawling through an area and going slow to keep from tearing something up.

Then a sharp 90° turn and up this small but steep slope to get out.

If the traction control is engaged, it will limit the rpms and apply the brakes to the tire it deems to be slipping.

Between the two, the truck will get almost to the crest and just run out of juice with the go pedal pushed to the floor.

If I shut the traction control off, the tires will spin a bit here and there, but it will crawl right up the slope.

Granted, the service truck weighs 17,900 lbs.

 

[LouNY]

I actually have to shut my traction control off in my F550 service truck on a couple different jobsites. It's to get up steep gravely hills.

The traction control will actually stall the truck out and prevent me from getting up the steep grades. They aren't very long. But your crawling through an area and going slow to keep from tearing something up.

Then a sharp 90° turn and up this small but steep slope to get out.

If the traction control is engaged, it will limit the rpms and apply the brakes to the tire it deems to be slipping.

Between the two, the truck will get almost to the crest and just run out of juice with the go pedal pushed to the floor.

If I shut the traction control off, the tires will spin a bit here and there, but it will crawl right up the slope.

Granted, the service truck weighs 17,900 lbs.

I have to shut off the traction control in my driveway much of the time in the winter as it will do the same just cut off the engine so the vehicle will stop in the hills.

 

[Grumpycat]

I have gotten stuck with AWD as it isn't 4 wheel drive. But in urban settings during the winter it makes for a much safer drive. You can't be an idiot obviously.

There is a lot of variation in implementation of AWD. Some do it better than others. Some just do enough to advertise and sell as AWD. Same as for hybrid, and synthetic motor oil.

IMHO among the lower cost vehicles Subaru does the best with AWD. But Mercedes-Benz, Audi, BMW, Porsche do very well too.

Haven’t stressed my Tesla to know how well the AWD works. In normal driving it works so well you don’t know it is there.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

So do I.
The night before I became a father, we were sliding around corners and doing donuts in empty parking lots during a major snow storm.

We paid the price though. Soon after the fun was over we had to drive 25 miles in that blizzard to get to the hospital.

On the positive side, since you had played around with the car and learned its behavior and limits, that trip to the hospital was far less risky.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

If the traction control is engaged, it will limit the rpms and apply the brakes to the tire it deems to be slipping.

Between the two, the truck will get almost to the crest and just run out of juice with the go pedal pushed to the floor.

A Mercedes SUV did its best to try to kill me in the dunes that way.

Nothing like being at the top, halfway through shooting a bowl, only to have a yaw sensor (or whatever) shut the power off at the most critical moment.

It would've been several rolls before reaching the bottom had my near instant "turn downhill" reaction not worked out.

 

[WinterDeere]

From German accents to AWD control issues. Little towing, and no photos.

 

[kenmbz]

The problem is the design for many nanny sensors is meant to handle 90% of the problems.
The other 10% , not so much.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Little towing, and no photos.

I have one photo of a very rear heavy dump trailer being towed, predictably resulting in sway at the first mild downhill. You want me to find it?

 

[WinterDeere]

I have one photo of a very rear heavy dump trailer being towed, predictably resulting in sway at the first mild downhill. You want me to find it?

I'll be impressed if the driver is a Turk who only speaks German, and if the vehicle has automatic AWD.

 

[Renze]

If the traction control is engaged, it will limit the rpms and apply the brakes to the tire it deems to be slipping.

My previous S70 had that. It worked pretty good, braking the spinning wheel. You could really feel the other wheel pulling with a jolt, if one was spinning on ice.

My current V70 cuts power when it senses a spinning wheel. I turn it off when i go looking at the fields because it cuts power in the sand road, slowing me down. It makes it safer though, for inexperienced drivers when that diesel torque kicks in on the front wheels in the corner, but to me it is a pain mostly.

When towing from a soft spot i prefer to hear the diesel work, no torque converter, my dads 740 automatic was terrible with a cattle trailer on wet grass, you were either stalling in the torque converter, or as soon as the tires went around, you were spinning at 30+ kmh. Just drop the clutch at idle and let the wheels go around two or three times before youre rolling, with a manual.

 

[Dftodd]

My previous S70 had that. It worked pretty good, braking the spinning wheel. You could really feel the other wheel pulling with a jolt, if one was spinning on ice.

My current V70 cuts power when it senses a spinning wheel. I turn it off when i go looking at the fields because it cuts power in the sand road, slowing me down. It makes it safer though, for inexperienced drivers when that diesel torque kicks in on the front wheels in the corner, but to me it is a pain mostly.

I started out in my profession working in Florida where jobsites were predominantly sugar sand.

I agree with shutting off the traction control when in sand. Granted when I started, vehicles didn't have traction control.

I would hit those jobsites and have to rally as fast as I could for as far as I could go until I got stuck. Truck was a 6 speed manual transmission. So I would hit the haul roads in 4th gear at 45 to 50 mph and as it started to bog down, I would downshift to the next lower gear, push the pedal back to the floor and keep going until the truck was buried.

Then call for a dozer to come haul me the rest of the way in