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[Yogi05]

Don't get me started on RV drivers, truckers have to test and have a CDL, RV's all you need is a license and may have never driven anything bigger than your Prius.

In Canada, or Ontario at least, the AZ is for tractor trailers and some larger motor homes. For the motor homes equiped with air brakes
you could do the night class.
You used to be able to get an A license with a pick up truck and a trailer registered for a certain weight.
You could get the A with a pickup, take a night class for the air brake endorsement (Z) and go to work driving heavy trucks.
You can't do that any more. If you want the AZ you need to test in a tractor trailer with a manual transmission.

Now you need an AR for large RVs. A is the weight/vehicle factor, and the R is recreational.
Other RVs like C class are still just a regular driver license.

I might even argue there should be an endorsement for these super cars. Mclarens etc. They are beyond regular powered vehicles.
In the end I do not support regulating the hell out of everything so carry on I guess.

But I do like to know the guy coming at me with an 80 000# vehicle has some training. Same as the guy landing the airplane I'm in.

 

[goeduck]

As a cycle rider I always, always pay special attention to any trailers or vehicles loaded with cargo. I know firsthand how challenging it is to strap down stuff securely, having hauled a lot of things in my years. The average person does not put anywhere near enough attention on making sure cargo is secure. I give those vehicles plenty of room or get the heck around them fast.

Agree, I would never have been that close, particularly on a motorcycle. But that for him is hindsight. I hope he made it.

 

[plowhog]

Same as the guy landing the airplane I'm in.

I once flew left seat/pilot in command of a Cessna 414 twin engine, wide oval cabin aircraft. 6 passengers on board. Departed, flew enroute, and landed at the destination.

What was missing was-- I had no pilot rating to fly a multi-engine aircraft, nor any experience. This was my first time ever in a multi engine aircraft (at the time.) There were several onboard; I was told an instructor would be onboard in the right seat, which would have made it a safe and legal flight. Before I boarded, and without me knowing who was who, they switched seats and a non-pilot passenger sat up front with me instead of the instructor. The instructor had no idea I was not qualified to fly that plane nor had any training.

After landing, I was having trouble keeping the plane straight during taxi to the ramp. Weaving left and right on the taxiway. From the back, the instructor said "watch RPM" which was good advice since I was watching manifold pressure instead. He unbuckled, came up front and asked me if I was multi engine rated. When I said no, he turned white as a ghost.

 

[Yogi05]

I once flew left seat/pilot in command of a Cessna 414 twin engine, wide oval cabin aircraft. 6 passengers on board. Departed, flew enroute, and landed at the destination.

What was missing was-- I had no pilot rating to fly a multi-engine aircraft, nor any experience. This was my first time ever in a multi engine aircraft (at the time.) There were several onboard; I was told an instructor would be onboard in the right seat, which would have made it a safe and legal flight. Before I boarded, and without me knowing who was who, they switched seats and a non-pilot passenger sat up front with me instead of the instructor. The instructor had no idea I was not qualified to fly that plane nor had any training.

After landing, I was having trouble keeping the plane straight during taxi to the ramp. Weaving left and right on the taxiway. From the back, the instructor said "watch RPM" which was good advice since I was watching manifold pressure instead. He unbuckled, came up front and asked me if I was multi engine rated. When I said no, he turned white as a ghost.

Lol

There are some that understand the machine - plane - car
and many that do not and never will.
(those are ones I want having specific training.)

 

[plowhog]

Oops I should clarify I was a rated Private Pilot with instrument and commercial ratings at the time-- just no training or experience with multi-engine.

I did later get the multi engine rating. And learned through that training just how hazardous my flight had been ...

 

[/pine]

I once flew left seat/pilot in command of a Cessna 414 twin engine, wide oval cabin aircraft. 6 passengers on board. Departed, flew enroute, and landed at the destination.

What was missing was-- I had no pilot rating to fly a multi-engine aircraft, nor any experience. This was my first time ever in a multi engine aircraft (at the time.) There were several onboard; I was told an instructor would be onboard in the right seat, which would have made it a safe and legal flight. Before I boarded, and without me knowing who was who, they switched seats and a non-pilot passenger sat up front with me instead of the instructor. The instructor had no idea I was not qualified to fly that plane nor had any training.

After landing, I was having trouble keeping the plane straight during taxi to the ramp. Weaving left and right on the taxiway. From the back, the instructor said "watch RPM" which was good advice since I was watching manifold pressure instead. He unbuckled, came up front and asked me if I was multi engine rated. When I said no, he turned white as a ghost.

Were you not compelled to make it known that you were not multi thrust rated?

One thing that made the Skymaster so popular was the power of twin engines but not requiring the multi thrust rating...

 

[ning]

Agree, I would never have been that close, particularly on a motorcycle. But that for him is hindsight. I hope he made it.

The audio on the video indicated he'd gotten up right at the end "oh he got up" or something.
I'm sure he had major road rash considering how he was geared and I wouldn't be surprised if he'd chipped his elbow bones or potentially broken an arm and quite likely a clavicle.

I know from speedy bicycle wipeouts that you don't feel much right away, hopefully he got up and staggered to the edge of the road and got comfortable sitting down before the shock hit him.

 

[plowhog]

Were you not compelled to make it known that you were not multi thrust rated?

Had I known there was no qualified pilot/instructor in the right seat I never would have made the flight at all ....

 

[dstig1]

Oops I should clarify I was a rated Private Pilot with instrument and commercial ratings at the time-- just no training or experience with multi-engine.

I did later get the multi engine rating. And learned through that training just how hazardous my flight had been ...

Not a pilot but very curious as to those details. I have no idea why multi engine is harder other than there are obviously more things to deal with...

 

[sea2summit]

Not a pilot but very curious as to those details. I have no idea why multi engine is harder other than there are obviously more things to deal with...

Gotta be able to fly with one engine…
Equal power for taxi/falloff/flight (think two gas pedals…but it’s more like 4-6 depending on props)
Stalls way different.
CG and response compared to most singles is awkward at first.

So many new bits and bobs. Can’t imagine just jumping in and taking off without a word from the “instructor” in the other seat….especially with passengers.

 

[plowhog]

have no idea why multi engine is harder

Think of the time just after liftoff from the runway during takeoff. Nose is high, airspeed is low, you are barely off the ground and with nowhere to land. If an engine fails at this time, it is extremely hazardous and even some experienced pilots will buy the farm at that point.

The problem is the engine on one side is pulling for all its worth, and suddenly the other side goes to zero thrust. The "good" engine starts yawing the plane violently, since its only pulling from one side. On the other side, all the "slipstream" from the flow of the now-failed engine has been lost, meaning you've lost lift on that side.

End result: an engine failure on takeoff can quickly roll the plane, or stall the wing without benefit of a good engine, unless immediate corrective action is taken. You need extensive training to quickly a) identify what is taking place, and b) input the *proper* corrective action. A really good option to prevent flipping over is to immediately reduce power on the sole remaining good engine-- but once again, very close to the ground and now with no power at all is also a serious difficulty.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Believe me the elderly here are far from being a problem...

The problem with hundreds cited on a weekend are young, often unlicensed, often hi-performance vehicles where things like stop signs, speed limits etc... simply don't apply...

See the term Sideshow

With a picture worth a thousand words maybe it's time for a dashcam?

As a sidenote the drug dealers announce their presence from the way they rev engines...

Yep, the young street racers and/ or druggies are a bigger problem than elderly drivers.

 

[ultrarunner]

Yep, the young street racers and/ or druggies are a bigger problem than elderly drivers.

You said it better... street racing is the new thing and almost exclusively Chrysler offerings...

No margin for error racing on busy city streets and taking over intersections...

 

[goeduck]

Yep, the young street racers and/ or druggies are a bigger problem than elderly drivers.

To a point. I recall my wife's grandfather wanting to take us for ice cream cones and driving down the centerline so there was plenty of room on each side to stay on the road. Cars honking and going into the ditch everywhere.

 

[ultrarunner]

Maybe it is a regional thing...?

In large metro elderly drivers seem to be an endangered species compared to the plague if young lawless drivers...

My car has been hit three times and no insurance, no license and no registration... Oldest 23 and youngest 15.

DMV says can only suspend or revoke license so anyone not licensed gets a pass...

Law Enforcement only become involved when someone is injured... so another pass.

 

[paulfun9]

Believe me the elderly here are far from being a problem...

The problem with hundreds cited on a weekend are young, often unlicensed, often hi-performance vehicles where things like stop signs, speed limits etc... simply don't apply...

See the term Sideshow

With a picture worth a thousand words maybe it's time for a dashcam?

As a sidenote the drug dealers announce their presence from the way they rev engines...

I don’t seem to have issue with the young doing much more around me than thier parents do on a regular basis.
The elderly however are a constant danger and it seems I can’t make it one day without one of them pulling some stupid move around me no matter what I am driving.

 

[ultrarunner]

Are you rural or big metro?

The reason I ask is it does seem rural have less scrutiny in my limited experience... Dad's Nevada rancher friend kept driving with failing eyesight... saying he had a valid license... he was a ways from Elko and miles on a dirt road... someone would have reported him in a heartbeat in SF Bay Area...

 

[California]

I don’t seem to have issue with the young doing much more around me than their parents
The elderly however are a constant danger

Why not both?

Actually elders here are a nuisance sometimes driving too cautiously, but they aren't crashing.

The most dangerous freeway stretch I drive (between home and ranch) is I-80 by Travis AFB. (East of San Francisco).

Brand new BMW's, Chargers, and motorcycles race and zig-zag through 70 mph thick traffic up to 30+ mph faster. Apparently airmen who just got a re-inlistment bonus, or maybe first-time California drivers with an enlistment bonus. And lots of cops giving them tickets. I've seen motorcycles down in that area twice in the last couple of months, one in the middle of a several-car crash, all in the fast lane. Driving at non-peak hours doesn't help, that's when the loons go out to race.

Another bad stretch near that is Lakeville Hwy south of Petaluma. 2 lanes. For some reason lots of head-on crashes. There's a sign up now noting 9 crashes in the past 6 months. I came upon one last year just after missing a yellow light. When I caught up with my cohort a drunk had just come over and killed a woman. Then a few months later I dodged a pickup that was half in my lane before he swerved back at the last minute, I think he was texting. I no longer go that way. Now that widening is completed on six lane 101 down to Novato, that takes the same time although its 6 miles longer.

I don't remember driving being this dangerous in my 60+ years licensed. Am I just getting old?

 

[ultrarunner]

No... just more dangerous drivers and many got a pass in the early days of Covid... no enforcement to be found and city cut traffic division also reassigning to more pressing details

 

[bcp]

There were articles several months ago then during the pandemic, highway accidents were down but highway deaths were up.

Bruce