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[steve tym]

No helmet law here in NH, The Live Free or Die State.
No problem with that, until you dash your brains out and the State (hear as taxpayers) have to keep you alive on life support in the hospital.

 

[WinterDeere]

No helmet law here in NH, The Live Free or Die State.
No problem with that, until you dash your brains out and the State (hear as taxpayers) have to keep you alive on life support in the hospital.

Meh. The medical expenses of a few stupid individuals may look like a lot of money to an individual, but in the grand scheme of the state budget, they’re but a drop of water in the ocean. If you really want to split hairs so fine, there are also costs associated with enforcing helmet laws, but I think we probably all have bigger things to worry about.

 

[Rockbadchild]

A guy that I work with was on a motorcycle in a state with no helmet law, so he didn't have a helmet on and he was only wearing a T shirt. A herd a deer cross the road as he was going by... 30 seizure later lets just say he won't ride without a helmet again...

 

[steve tym]

Eventually, you put enough drops in that bucket and it will be full.
We have way too many things that are just a drop in the bucket.

 

[WinterDeere]

Eventually, you put enough drops in that bucket and it will be full.
We have way too many things that are just a drop in the bucket.

I don't disagree. But in this case, the cost of enforcing useless laws may be several more drops in that bucket, than the occasional (6.8% in my state) uninsured accident victim.

 

[California]

I don't disagree. But in this case, the cost of enforcing useless laws may be several more drops in that bucket, than the occasional (6.8% in my state) uninsured accident victim.

In a previous lifetime I did in-depth studies of costs in various State departments. I discovered CalTrans legal division pays for lifetime care of several totally disabled people who had successfully sued the state for putting a guardrail or lamppost etc right where they ran into it.

It was explained to me this illustrated the 'deep pockets' principle, when there is insufficient insurance or no one to pay medical bills, then whoever has sufficient assets is next in line to provide the lifetime care.

And it was emphasized to me that individual landowners also face the risk of bearing these costs. So liability insurance is essential.

 

[BigBlue1]

No helmet law here in NH, The Live Free or Die State.
No problem with that, until you dash your brains out and the State (hear as taxpayers) have to keep you alive on life support in the hospital.

If THAT'S where you're looking for government/taxpayer/health insurance waste you're focused on a single grain of sand on a Florida beach. There are 10,000 other types of things where we waste orders of magnitude more money. Often for things that are far dumber than driving a cycle without a helmet.

If that's the argument FOR mandatory helmet laws I'll gladly sign a waiver when I renew my cycle license saying that if I get in that situation and state I want the plug pulled so I'll skip the helmet. I've been riding 40+ years and hundreds of thousands of miles without a helmet. I'm comfortable with my own stats. Folks should stop telling other folks what they should do.

 

[Rockbadchild]

If THAT'S where you're looking for government/taxpayer/health insurance waste you're focused on a single grain of sand on a Florida beach. There are 10,000 other types of things where we waste orders of magnitude more money. Often for things that are far dumber than driving a cycle without a helmet.

If that's the argument FOR mandatory helmet laws I'll gladly sign a waiver when I renew my cycle license saying that if I get in that situation and state I want the plug pulled so I'll skip the helmet. I've been riding 40+ years and hundreds of thousands of miles without a helmet. I'm comfortable with my own stats. Folks should stop telling other folks what they should do.

I couldn't imagine being able to ride without visor in Kanasta I would get peppered with bugs in no time...

 

[BigBlue1]

I couldn't imagine being able to ride without visor in Kanasta I would get peppered with bugs in no time...


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That's what windshields are for. I suppose if your bike style doesn't have a good windshield then a helmet becomes more useful.

 

[California]

How can you tell a motorcyclist is happy ....