Rural Garbage Service Mandatory ..

[MikePA]

Well I have to vigorously disagree with that one

I agree with everything you wrote. Anyone who has ever been down wind of someone burning their trash knows how inconsiderate this practice is.

We have a wide variety of weekly trash services. All are optional and include recycling. We can also buy additional bags at the township offices. Spring and Fall clean up days (haul to the Township offices) are also included.

Tag-a-Bag = $3.50 per tag
2 Bags/week = $44.25 per quarter
4 bags/week = $47.25 per quarter
8 Bags/week = $53.25 per quarter
Toter Service= $36.00 yearly to rent toter plus 4 bag service.

 

[LBrown59]

Well I have to vigorously disagree with that one

My yard has been caught on fire twice by careless neighbors not keeping tabs on their fire. Once the fire consumed a VW Beetle sized pile of pinestraw I had raked up for my dad across town. That kinda ticked me off, a lot of work for me and the stupid careless neighbor wasn't even apologetic.

Then crack down hard on the offender but don't paint everything with a broad bush by totally banning burning.

I'm against any burning regulation that doesn't specifically address a fire safety issue.​

 

[jinman]

No charge.
I take my trash to town once a month. On the second Saturday of each month the county will unload your truck and/or trailer and throw it in one of their dumpsters. I recycle and burn, so I usually have only 3 bags a month.

The county is really clean. Why dump when the county will unload free every month?

Don, when you say "recycle," do you mean other than aluminum cans? Plastic? Newspaper?

When I lived in town, they had a "show your water bill and dump" policy at the local dump. Still, weekly I'd see piles of trash and old furniture beside the road less than a mile from the dump. I guess that was from people out of the town or people who "lost" their water bill. The city also had a number you could call before placing furniture, appliances, and brush piles at the curb. They would make a special free pickup of those items in an appropriate vehicle. Furniture and brush normally was picked up by a dump truck. On one occasion I saw them using a city tractor to load it. Of course, that was less than 1/4 mile away from the city equipment garage. That might have had something to do with it.

Here in the country, burn ban or not, I am very cautious about burning trash. I have deep gullies to burn in, but when it's windy or dry, I refuse to take a chance. I normally only burn about twice per year or less. I've seen grasshoppers with their wings aflame fly several yards into dry grass when I was a kid. I can't get that picture out of my mind as to how easy it is to have a fire spread. I always also keep a charged garden hose handy to snuff any flames.

This last July 4th presented me with a situation I was not expecting and is still unresolved. I bought a huge firework as the grand finale to my annual show. Unfortunately, when it came time to set it off, it only fizzled and quit after the first couple of shells went off. July was a wet month here and the firework had gotten wet before I bought it. The connecting fuse between shells just would not burn. We were disappointed, but we had so much previously in the show that it wasn't a big thing.

The next day, I went back to the fireworks stand and they gave me a refund, but they didn't want anything to do with a partially exploded firework with over 100 unfired shells. How about the garbage company? Well...maybe not. I didn't want to be arrested for trying to blow up a garbage truck. Bury it?...I guess I could, but burying all that gunpowder made me nervous. Burn?...I wish! That's what was wrong with it in the first place. So my solution was to keep it until it dryed out and then burn it in a bonfire in my gully. I guess I could call the local volunteer fire department, but why let them have all the fun? So, this New Years Eve, I just may be havin' a small (or large) fireworks show in my gulley. Keepin' the thing around any longer is probably not the wisest thing to do. What do you think?

 

[LBrown59]

Where I lived from age 3 to age 24 there was a fairly large hollow beside the house which was our trash disposal.

I doubt that few if any people living way out in the boonies around here have or use a trash pick up service.
Everything is probably dumped in a hollow or buried out there.

The County does have a few problems with illegal dumping; but what can you expect when you create more refuse by banning burning and enacting strict mandatory trash collection laws that drive up disposal cost to where it's unaffordable for many?!

 

[Wayne County Hose]

No burning laws are not ridiculous. My personal and political belief is that you should be able to do as you please on your property, as long as you are not bothering or harming anyone else. When my neighbor burns his garbage, the prevailing wind sends the smell to our home. It is not fair to us to have to put up with that. Sometimes he will burn in the morning when we are not home, but sometimes he forgets and burns in the early evening. There are also many harmful chemicals produced by burning plastics and other related stuff. So, not only are my family bothered by the smell, but the planet has to pay for his laziness. There are no burning laws going into effect around here and I can't wait for more. Like I said, do as you wish, as long as you are not bothering or harming anyone else.

 

[MikePA]

No burning laws are not ridiculous. My personal and political belief is that you should be able to do as you please on your property, as long as you are not bothering or harming anyone else. When my neighbor burns his garbage, the prevailing wind sends the smell to our home. It is not fair to us to have to put up with that.

Some people do not understand the 'good neighbor' concept resulting in laws to control their abberrant, self centered behavior.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

1*No burning laws are ridiculous

Not if you live downwind of someone burning plastics and anything else they can stuff in a 55 gallon drum.

2*Now that's a real rip off as it cause some folks to pay for trash service when no trash is being picked up.

Should I have to pay tax on a highway I will never use?

4*This is very unfair to people who don't generate much if any trash.

Life isn't fair. Should my tax money go towards stuff I won't benefit from?

To make matters worse they won't take TVs refrigerators freezers ac tires and the like.

Do you have any idea what freon does to the atmosphere? Do you have any idea the chemicals in a cathode ray tube (tv) and in tires that leaches from the landfill into the ground water?

 

[Bird]

I guess there's a lot of our members who are too young to remember when "landfills" were unheard of, at least in the smaller towns. Whatever people didn't burn at their own home was hauled to the town "dump". And periodically the dump would be set on fire either on purpose or accidentally. No one thought about complaining about the smoke, odor, etc.

Now of course there were a number of really BIG differences between then and now:

1. Things such as much bigger population; more people generating garbage,
2. Different packaging
a. How many remember returnable milk bottles, beer bottles, soda bottles?
b. Pre-packaged meats with plastic and styrofoam instead of butcher paper,
c. Sugar, flour, and such in cloth sacks that were kept and used instead of paper to dispose of,
d. Paper grocery sacks instead of plastic.

And I'm sure you older folks can name lots of other examples.

 

[dmccarty]

WOW! TBNers like to Talk Trash.

After reading pages of Trash Talk its pretty obvious we got it good. We get a sticker to put in the vehicles, which means my truck, since I don't think the wifey has ever been to the transfer station. With the sticker you can go to the transfer station as often as you like. The sticker was implemented two years ago. Prior to that ANYONE could go to the dump for no charge. Thursday I took a half of a PU load to the transfer station. The load was the regular trash, plus the XMAS mess, and cleaning up the "barn." Friday I was cleaning up in the barn and took another half of a load.

No cost at all.

The lady at the station recognizes me.

The station take trash, used oil, and recycles magazines, bottles, cans, newspapers, etc. There are stations all over the county. Every few months the dump to our west has hazardous waste collection for paints, antifreeze, used oil, etc.

But people are pigs no matter where you live. In the county you don't have to have trash pickup but you can hire the service. We have a neighbor who does this and they use ONE can. We have three 64 gallon cans. They just throw trash into it until it overflows. And then stack more trash around the can. These people have loads of money and they walk once or twice a day. No reason they could not use TWO cans to keep the trash contained. So the trash gets blown all over the place. Here is the funny part. Given the prevailing winds the trash blows all over THEIR land. So they have to pick it up. You would think they would buy a second can....

The property to our west has been subdivided. They put in road and have cleared the lot lines. One of these lot lines intersects our land behind our house. I walked their line one day to check it out. The lot in question is 500-700 feet deep. Withing 100 feet of OUR property someone had driven in with and ATV or tractor and dumped trash. Right next to the their road someone had dumped two beat up but very large and heavy floor jacks. The county dump is 3-4 miles west of us and the transfer station is about the same distance to the east. EVERYONE has to go near the east station since its right behind the only two grocery stores within 15 miles. No excuse to dump. Just Stupid. It took them more time to dump the trash than to take it to the station.

We have had someone dump kitty litter, used of course, on our road. They had to pass the gate with the no tresspass signs to do it. I assume it was a teenage from the subdivision to our front. And it has not happened in awhile. But people out front used to dump yard waste on the land before we bought.

We don't have trash servce and don't want it. Its just too easy to go to the transfer station as required.

In the city I paid way too much for trash pickup. It was in the water/sewer bill and I had to pay. The garbage men where lazy and would drop trash all over the place. They never would pick up what they dropped. Our trash was always bagged so the trash they dropped was other peoples trash from their bins. I had to clean up behind them every Thursday. And I got to pay for the service.

Later,
Dan

 

[Skyco]

Some people do not understand the 'good neighbor' concept resulting in laws to control their abberrant, self centered behavior.

EXACTLY