Running Carbides An Chippers on the same Drum?

[McCaskey]

Think twice about the Planer Carbides.

I spent a lot of money swapping out standard carbides for planers and results are disapointing on my Loftness Carbide Cutter. I have less than 100 hours on the new teeth and half are fractured and broken. The Standard Carbides lasted 700 hours without a single broken tooth. King Kong Tools is the OEM supplier for Loftness. The response from Loftness was "planers are best when used in areas where geology is entirely rock and stone free- a Carolina sand beach for instance." I don't have any rocks, only average vegetation that would be expected for any mulcher. The drum is now out of balance with broken teeth. Without material in the drum, the vibration is noticeable.

 

[cat 297c]

Try Quadco I've had nothing but good luck with Quadcos coppers, I did have king kong planners but had the same problem as mccasky broke very easy.

 

[justinl]

On the quadco teeth how many hours did you get out of them?

 

[cat 297c]

On the quadco teeth how many hours did you get out of them?

I run a fae head quadco makes chippers and double tipped carbides, the chippers I get anywhere from 50-60hrs out of each side.

Now if u have the old paddle style fecon rotor quadco has a holder that uses feller head teeth.

 

[justinl]

Yeah i got the older style head and I talked to Jim at quadco and he said he wouldn't run the feller teeth said they won't last very long he recommended the chipper tooth. Have you ever heard of the eagle claw brand of chipper teeth? They are about a grand cheaper a set than quadco and they claim to last about the same amount of time.

 

[cat 297c]

Yeah i got the older style head and I talked to Jim at quadco and he said he wouldn't run the feller teeth said they won't last very long he recommended the chipper tooth. Have you ever heard of the eagle claw brand of chipper teeth? They are about a grand cheaper a set than quadco and they claim to last about the same amount of time.

Yeah I have heard of them but never give them a shot, I would try them out if there a grand cheaper.

 

[justinl]

Yeah I'm gonna try them out and I'll let you know.
Thanks for your input

 

[cat 297c]

Yeah I'm gonna try them out and I'll let you know.
Thanks for your input

No problem

 

[CustomConstruction]

I now see that quadco is making chippers for the bobcat head.. Anyone run them yet?

 

[cat 297c]

I now see that quadco is making chippers for the bobcat head.. Anyone run them yet?

Havent ran them on the bobcat head, but you'll be extremely impressed. You will think your in a different machine a much bigger machine.

 

[CustomConstruction]

Are you running them all across your drum or just in the center?

 

[cat 297c]

Are you running them all across your drum or just in the center?

I tried running both but it never would balance right on my Rayco c140 tried serval different ways I got it close but there still was a slight vibration in the drum ran it anyway because I was feed up with moving teeth around. After bout 50 hrs of running it like that my bearings went out, so I run chippers all around then when I need carbides for a job I just change them out. The quadco system will take your bobcat head from a two bolt tooth to a one bolt tooth so it pretty much cuts. Changing tool time in half, my Rayco has the old Fae two bolt drum before I installed the quadcos it took my 45- an hour changing teeth depending on how bad the bolts in the tools were, to 20-30 minutes with the quadcos. I know a guy running them in the center of his cat hm415b head which is a fae head as far as I know he hasn't had any problems. Once my stock teeth ware out on my cat415hm I'm running going to try it.

 

[CustomConstruction]

Ok thanks for the information.. I think im gonna give it a try on my bobcat head and see how it works..

 

[cheapchamfer]

Hey has anyone seen the replacment teeth for the loftness mulcher on youtube and on ebay?

The teeth are made of D2 tool steel. The video shows a kid changing a tooth on the drum. The tooth looks a little like a knive or maybe a planer tooth. quadco teeth are made of steel. Are they costly.

The D2 tool steel teeth are 30$ bucks. Is that a good deal?

 

[cat 297c]

That's in the ball park my double sided quadcos are round 37.00 a piece for chippers.

 

[cheapchamfer]

Lets see there is 42 teeth on my rotor and a 7 buck difference. that around a 294 buck difference.

How is the quadco holding up? can you resharp? Do they save you fuel over the carbide?

Can I bolt them right on like the D2 tooth?

Looks like the bolts are different. Do you change your bolts every time you change out a set of teeth?

 

[fishfactor]

Lets see there is 42 teeth on my rotor and a 7 buck difference. that around a 294 buck difference.

How is the quadco holding up? can you resharp? Do they save you fuel over the carbide?

Can I bolt them right on like the D2 tooth?

Looks like the bolts are different. Do you change your bolts every time you change out a set of teeth?

hmmm... The seller on ebay has the same name as the poster on here.

 

[cheapchamfer]

hmmm... The seller on ebay has the same name as the poster on here.

Yup that is me.

I made the mold for these teeth in my garage shop and I am looking for feed back on what other people think hey want or need. Is there a market for them? I know i run them on my machine and they seem to do all right.

Standard teeth are big bucks and we all need to keep our cost down. It was cheaper for me to build the mold and get them casted than a set of standard loftness carbides. Not including my time of course.

 

[fishfactor]

I'm no expert by any stretch, but it seems the angle on the cutting edge should come to a sharper angle. The advantage to a knife you can sharpen is the sharp edge. All of the others I have seen have a angle similar to an axe.