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Henro
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<font color="blue"> How does this situation differ???? Anyone? </font>
I think the short answer is:
Using the past to predict the future is not a reliable method...
One is just lucky sometimes... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif But luck runs out too...
I think the short answer is:
Using the past to predict the future is not a reliable method...
One is just lucky sometimes... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif But luck runs out too...
The two accidents were not my fault. The two morons did not use common sence when turning (a blinker helps) & passing (in a no passing). If they did use common sense I would have not had to buy 2 new bikes. Was I hurt, yes but people get over it. Nothing major.
A ROPS in a BH application would make since. There are many tractors out there that are in production JD, MF or NH (small models) that have a FEL without a ROPS…
So I guess TBN people are most into safety then the manufactures?
A ROPS in a BH application would make since. There are many tractors out there that are in production JD, MF or NH (small models) that have a FEL without a ROPS…
So I guess TBN people are most into safety then the manufactures?
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First off none that you know...I stated on, a JD455 /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I think I know that since I have my BS in ME. Going for a Masters...I know all about what you have stated....Nothing new since it is a 2-year class in ME.
Ps. lets see the math then. Plus a new machine means nothing. It can be new or old. Weight is still weight and length is still length. I guess I can build military and commercial engines but I can't a BX..unreal.
KE and some others do not come in play since basic loads take over. It is basic statics to see if the mass is balanced. It is just length, force, torques or moments. Do you want to bring vibrations into it in case you fart on the seat for harmonic motions on the fluids! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If you need to bring K&D into play you have a junk design and are way to close to the edge.
Again JD sells a Loader and I think it is a small NH or MF that sells a small tractor without (NO ROPS) that picks-up like more weight then my BX.
I think I know that since I have my BS in ME. Going for a Masters...I know all about what you have stated....Nothing new since it is a 2-year class in ME.
Ps. lets see the math then. Plus a new machine means nothing. It can be new or old. Weight is still weight and length is still length. I guess I can build military and commercial engines but I can't a BX..unreal.
KE and some others do not come in play since basic loads take over. It is basic statics to see if the mass is balanced. It is just length, force, torques or moments. Do you want to bring vibrations into it in case you fart on the seat for harmonic motions on the fluids! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If you need to bring K&D into play you have a junk design and are way to close to the edge.
Again JD sells a Loader and I think it is a small NH or MF that sells a small tractor without (NO ROPS) that picks-up like more weight then my BX.
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#1 rule for engineers: do not assume anything since it makes you look like an _____. first mistake
#2 have you ever taking statics? if you did you would know why I stated that "none moving".
#3 Well then Lets see the math on how the BX compares to the JD455 in terms to force/length for FEL work??? Since you know K&D tell me the time to flip and the velocity at which it does? Or how about the factor of safety of the FEL or the life cycle?
To close, you people must think your tax $$$ and medical $$$$ only go to roads, schools and your medical etc....hmmmm, what world do you live in because my taxes and medical went up because of the "floaters" out there...My state is not any differant then yours; it effects you if you like it or not. Or if you even know and you can't stop it.
Ps: Are ROPS good, yes, I do not doubt that. But again I do not need a ROPS for mowing a yard or moving a 50 lb bag of corn pellets from my truck to a shed either.
They have there place but in certain applications they are do not needed.
#2 have you ever taking statics? if you did you would know why I stated that "none moving".
#3 Well then Lets see the math on how the BX compares to the JD455 in terms to force/length for FEL work??? Since you know K&D tell me the time to flip and the velocity at which it does? Or how about the factor of safety of the FEL or the life cycle?
To close, you people must think your tax $$$ and medical $$$$ only go to roads, schools and your medical etc....hmmmm, what world do you live in because my taxes and medical went up because of the "floaters" out there...My state is not any differant then yours; it effects you if you like it or not. Or if you even know and you can't stop it.
Ps: Are ROPS good, yes, I do not doubt that. But again I do not need a ROPS for mowing a yard or moving a 50 lb bag of corn pellets from my truck to a shed either.
They have there place but in certain applications they are do not needed.
daedong
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/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gifTake care mate/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Don't wish to get into an argument but will recount what happened on the weekend.
Was working on my block, pushing a rock when the right hand front of the bx23 fell into a Wombat hole.
Wombats dig like rabbits but leave two foot dia holes.
This hole had a thin crust over it but not enough to hold the tractor.
It was also an a side slope left to right.
Sitting there one instant, going over in the next.
I had the rops up and belt on and I also used to ride motor bikes so my right leg went out and reached the ground and I caught the bx just past the balance point.
I reached round and pulled the right hand stabilizer control and got the stabilizer leg down. That made it stable.
That left me hanging by the seat belt. With out it I would have slipped off the seat into the path of the falling tractor.
The right front wheel was hanging in the hole.
The Right rear wheel had slipped off the edge of the road I am making.
The left rear wheel was airborne.
I was a little shook up.
It took me half an hour to get out of the hole and back to level, using the backhoe to lift and pull with.
Did not do any more that day.
Was working on my block, pushing a rock when the right hand front of the bx23 fell into a Wombat hole.
Wombats dig like rabbits but leave two foot dia holes.
This hole had a thin crust over it but not enough to hold the tractor.
It was also an a side slope left to right.
Sitting there one instant, going over in the next.
I had the rops up and belt on and I also used to ride motor bikes so my right leg went out and reached the ground and I caught the bx just past the balance point.
I reached round and pulled the right hand stabilizer control and got the stabilizer leg down. That made it stable.
That left me hanging by the seat belt. With out it I would have slipped off the seat into the path of the falling tractor.
The right front wheel was hanging in the hole.
The Right rear wheel had slipped off the edge of the road I am making.
The left rear wheel was airborne.
I was a little shook up.
It took me half an hour to get out of the hole and back to level, using the backhoe to lift and pull with.
Did not do any more that day.
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Grammar check no work, either...
This thread has started to roll over. Fortunately, we have a TROPS... Thread Roll Over Protection System.
The original topic was... <font color="blue">My tractor doesn't have a ROPS i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get one. I have a b6100E. I've come close to rolling it before and it really scared the cr*p out of me. So close i nearly fell off. Anyways better safe then sorry. All info will be greatly appreciated </font>
Hopefully Andrew's questions were answered and we can skip the debate about using or disabling safety equipment.
This thread has started to roll over. Fortunately, we have a TROPS... Thread Roll Over Protection System.
The original topic was... <font color="blue">My tractor doesn't have a ROPS i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get one. I have a b6100E. I've come close to rolling it before and it really scared the cr*p out of me. So close i nearly fell off. Anyways better safe then sorry. All info will be greatly appreciated </font>
Hopefully Andrew's questions were answered and we can skip the debate about using or disabling safety equipment.
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