ROPS for ym1510d

roxynoodle · May 18, 2006

HI, I'm new to the forum, and to tractors in general. I just bought a 1510D with a FEL and being a gray market tractor it doesn't have a ROPS. I was wondering how necessary it is. I live in NW Ohio, which is as flat as Kansas so I'm not using it on much of a slope. I know a lot of people are criticizing these tractors for not having one, but older "American" tractors don't have them either. Most of the tractors being used around here are older. So far I have only used the FEL to clean stalls. Mostly I have used the tractor to mow. Any information you can give me would be welcome! Is this tractor easy to get parts for?

roxynoodle · May 18, 2006

HI, I'm new to the forum, and to tractors in general. I just bought a 1510D with a FEL and being a gray market tractor it doesn't have a ROPS. I was wondering how necessary it is. I live in NW Ohio, which is as flat as Kansas so I'm not using it on much of a slope. I know a lot of people are criticizing these tractors for not having one, but older "American" tractors don't have them either. Most of the tractors being used around here are older. So far I have only used the FEL to clean stalls. Mostly I have used the tractor to mow. Any information you can give me would be welcome! Is this tractor easy to get parts for?

LMTC · May 18, 2006

( Is this tractor easy to get parts for? )

I mean no offense, but I am curious, as I see this time and again. Why wait until after buying to ask this question?

LMTC · May 18, 2006

( Is this tractor easy to get parts for? )

I mean no offense, but I am curious, as I see this time and again. Why wait until after buying to ask this question?

roxynoodle · May 18, 2006

ignorance? Yes, you are right, I should have checked on that, but I had a limited budget and saw good things online about Yanmars and it seemed a good buy.

roxynoodle · May 18, 2006

ignorance? Yes, you are right, I should have checked on that, but I had a limited budget and saw good things online about Yanmars and it seemed a good buy.

FL_Jerry · May 19, 2006

I just put one on my 2000BD because of putting it off and on a trailer. When I got my tractor, I knew about ROPS, but I didn't know that it was easier than I thought to flip one. Not having one,(ROPS), doesn't seem all that critical when you live on flat land, till you read up on the subject here. Like life, there are a bunch of things you get smarter about as you go along. If you were an expert from the start, you would be a teenager.....

Jerry
2000BD

FL_Jerry · May 19, 2006

I just put one on my 2000BD because of putting it off and on a trailer. When I got my tractor, I knew about ROPS, but I didn't know that it was easier than I thought to flip one. Not having one,(ROPS), doesn't seem all that critical when you live on flat land, till you read up on the subject here. Like life, there are a bunch of things you get smarter about as you go along. If you were an expert from the start, you would be a teenager.....

Jerry
2000BD

ChuckT · May 19, 2006

We have a 1510D also & you are echoing my experience(s).

It appears that the aftermarket ROPS kits that are mentioned in this Forum and others I visit have not included the 1510D yet.

If anyone can explain why this is I'd like to hear the answer. I have asked the question before & didn't get a reply. Except, that is, from a specific Yanmar dealer who seemed to think that I was not supposed to complain about the lack of a ROPS kit for the 1510D.

Looking at the rear axle of the 1510D it's apparent to me that some engineering is needed to fit a ROPS to it & I'm curious to see what the result looks like & how it'll fit.

The last word I got - this from Aaron @ Hoye Tractors (Thanks Aaron!) - was sometime later this year.

FWIW - here in Central Florida, aka the slums of Dizzy World, there isn't much in the way of hills to cause a lot of tractor turn-overs. HOWEVER there is a need for a ROPS on any tractor. I'm basing this on the fact that tractors are weighty and high-centered, i.e. extremely easy to upset.

cvt

ChuckT · May 19, 2006

We have a 1510D also & you are echoing my experience(s).

It appears that the aftermarket ROPS kits that are mentioned in this Forum and others I visit have not included the 1510D yet.

If anyone can explain why this is I'd like to hear the answer. I have asked the question before & didn't get a reply. Except, that is, from a specific Yanmar dealer who seemed to think that I was not supposed to complain about the lack of a ROPS kit for the 1510D.

Looking at the rear axle of the 1510D it's apparent to me that some engineering is needed to fit a ROPS to it & I'm curious to see what the result looks like & how it'll fit.

The last word I got - this from Aaron @ Hoye Tractors (Thanks Aaron!) - was sometime later this year.

FWIW - here in Central Florida, aka the slums of Dizzy World, there isn't much in the way of hills to cause a lot of tractor turn-overs. HOWEVER there is a need for a ROPS on any tractor. I'm basing this on the fact that tractors are weighty and high-centered, i.e. extremely easy to upset.

cvt

LMTC · May 19, 2006

( It appears that the aftermarket ROPS kits that are mentioned in this Forum and others I visit have not included the 1510D yet.

If anyone can explain why this is I'd like to hear the answer. I have asked the question before & didn't get a reply. Except, that is, from a specific Yanmar dealer who seemed to think that I was not supposed to complain about the lack of a ROPS kit for the 1510D. )

Are you referencing this THREAD? If so, I don't see where anyone told you not to complain. I do see where someone (that would be me) took issue with you when you wrote ( We have a Ym 1510D & I see that a ROPS for it is not going to be developed (boo, hiss). Can you say why? ) You also asked ( Also I see that you have the models split out as groups can you say how the group are organized, chassis length?, axle?, rear track?, overall width?, overall weight?)

And I replied ( I hope the "boo, hiss" was in jest, as we and others have lobbied for the manufacture of these for some years. It ultimately took a sizeable investment (not ours, I admit) to get them produced. They have to be profitable. If there are not enough of a given model out there to allow for a likely recoupment of investment, the result is no investment. That's my best guess.

Models are in the groups they are in because the manufacturer of the ROPS says that is the way it works.)

It is simple economics. There has never been anything stopping anyone from developing an OSHA compliant ROPS for any of these units other than the expense. You can go get your own custom ROPS for your 1510 if you care to invest the minimum $20k for engineering and production startup. I am not intending to be sarcastic with you, but rather state the facts. If someone told you not to complain, I would like to view the thread.

And with that cleared up, someone has decided to shell out the money to develop the 1510 ROPS. Sometime late this year is the best guess at this time.

LMTC · May 19, 2006

( It appears that the aftermarket ROPS kits that are mentioned in this Forum and others I visit have not included the 1510D yet.

If anyone can explain why this is I'd like to hear the answer. I have asked the question before & didn't get a reply. Except, that is, from a specific Yanmar dealer who seemed to think that I was not supposed to complain about the lack of a ROPS kit for the 1510D. )

Are you referencing this THREAD? If so, I don't see where anyone told you not to complain. I do see where someone (that would be me) took issue with you when you wrote ( We have a Ym 1510D & I see that a ROPS for it is not going to be developed (boo, hiss). Can you say why? ) You also asked ( Also I see that you have the models split out as groups can you say how the group are organized, chassis length?, axle?, rear track?, overall width?, overall weight?)

And I replied ( I hope the "boo, hiss" was in jest, as we and others have lobbied for the manufacture of these for some years. It ultimately took a sizeable investment (not ours, I admit) to get them produced. They have to be profitable. If there are not enough of a given model out there to allow for a likely recoupment of investment, the result is no investment. That's my best guess.

Models are in the groups they are in because the manufacturer of the ROPS says that is the way it works.)

It is simple economics. There has never been anything stopping anyone from developing an OSHA compliant ROPS for any of these units other than the expense. You can go get your own custom ROPS for your 1510 if you care to invest the minimum $20k for engineering and production startup. I am not intending to be sarcastic with you, but rather state the facts. If someone told you not to complain, I would like to view the thread.

And with that cleared up, someone has decided to shell out the money to develop the 1510 ROPS. Sometime late this year is the best guess at this time.

Ductape · May 19, 2006

Since, as i have been told (feel free to correct me if i'm mistaken), my 186D shares a chassis with the 1510D... would this mean a ROPS for a 1510D would bolt on to my tractor? I know the legal disclaimer of"not specifically designed for a 186D... therefor you cannot get one for a 186D, yadda, yadda, yadda". But that being said, would anyone in the know, know if the bolt pattern/mounts would be the same between the two tractors?

Ductape · May 19, 2006

Since, as i have been told (feel free to correct me if i'm mistaken), my 186D shares a chassis with the 1510D... would this mean a ROPS for a 1510D would bolt on to my tractor? I know the legal disclaimer of"not specifically designed for a 186D... therefor you cannot get one for a 186D, yadda, yadda, yadda". But that being said, would anyone in the know, know if the bolt pattern/mounts would be the same between the two tractors?

LMTC · May 19, 2006

( would this mean a ROPS for a 1510D would bolt on to my tractor? )

Truly do not know, and the manufacturer will not respond to "what if" questions...rather understandably. It is possible that when it is certified it might be certified for additional models...some of the other groups have been. We won't know that until later. In a larger sense, it seems as if you have half-answered your own query, and a simple picture of the ROPS later on may help you answer the other half.

LMTC · May 19, 2006

( would this mean a ROPS for a 1510D would bolt on to my tractor? )

Truly do not know, and the manufacturer will not respond to "what if" questions...rather understandably. It is possible that when it is certified it might be certified for additional models...some of the other groups have been. We won't know that until later. In a larger sense, it seems as if you have half-answered your own query, and a simple picture of the ROPS later on may help you answer the other half.

roxynoodle · May 19, 2006

Ok, that was the other thing I noticed, was that I hadn't seen one on any of the websites that had ROPS for other Yanmars. The 1510D seems fairly popular and easy to find. When one is available, I'd really appreciate it if someone let me know. Thanks!

roxynoodle · May 19, 2006

Ok, that was the other thing I noticed, was that I hadn't seen one on any of the websites that had ROPS for other Yanmars. The 1510D seems fairly popular and easy to find. When one is available, I'd really appreciate it if someone let me know. Thanks!

ChuckT · May 19, 2006

Actually, in the interest of accuracy, shouldn't that thread be quoted like this?

We have a Ym 1510D & I see that a ROPS for it is not going to be developed (boo, hiss). Can you say why?

Also I see that you have the models split out as groups can you say how the group are organized, chassis length?, axle?, rear track?, overall width?, overall weight?

TIA
cvt

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I hope the "boo, hiss" was in jest, as we and others have lobbied for the manufacture of these for some years. It ultimately took a sizeable investment (not ours, I admit) to get them produced. They have to be profitable. If there are not enough of a given model out there to allow for a likely recoupment of investment, the result is no investment. That's my best guess.

Models are in the groups they are in because the manufacturer of the ROPS says that is the way it works.

*********************************
Hey, I am trying to be funny.

You "boo, hiss" the villain in one of those old silent movies. I think they were called "The Perils of Pauline" or something similar.

cvt

ChuckT · May 19, 2006

Actually, in the interest of accuracy, shouldn't that thread be quoted like this?

We have a Ym 1510D & I see that a ROPS for it is not going to be developed (boo, hiss). Can you say why?

Also I see that you have the models split out as groups can you say how the group are organized, chassis length?, axle?, rear track?, overall width?, overall weight?

TIA
cvt

********************************
I hope the "boo, hiss" was in jest, as we and others have lobbied for the manufacture of these for some years. It ultimately took a sizeable investment (not ours, I admit) to get them produced. They have to be profitable. If there are not enough of a given model out there to allow for a likely recoupment of investment, the result is no investment. That's my best guess.

Models are in the groups they are in because the manufacturer of the ROPS says that is the way it works.

*********************************
Hey, I am trying to be funny.

You "boo, hiss" the villain in one of those old silent movies. I think they were called "The Perils of Pauline" or something similar.

cvt