Root Grapple cost?

[cederstrand]

OK, have all but decided on the Mahindra 5035 HST. The dealer wants to sell me a heavy duty grapple (set up and installed) for $3,995. That seems pretty high to me. Sorry, I forgot to check on the make and model. It looked real serious, but not super wide. Any thoughts?

Are the kits for grapples expensive and are they difficult to set up for someone who has never done so? How much should that add to the price of a grapple?

Thanks! Rob

 

[AGGIE00]

My 77" Frontier root grapple was $3,500 and the third valve kit was $1100 and I installed it. If you look at true heavy duty root grapples, they are expensive.

 

[wcampbell47]

Compare prices at WR Long or Gator for your size tractor. Check your tractor options for standard hydraulic remotes. If they are included that might reduce your costs.

 

[jpm1]

Hi Rob, I am going to be purchasing a root grapple (rake style) and the best price I can find is at skidsteerexpress.com A 72 inch is 1575 and free freight to a trucking terminal or comercial address. I am going to get the 60" very soon. I havebought from this compamy before and they have good equipment, good prices and great to deal with. Check it out and happy tractoring. . . John

 

[rasimmo]

That price sounds about right. As said above the third valve kit will run about $1000 and a heavy duty, well engineered grapple will be around $3000. You can probably get a valve kit cheaper from another source, but personally I would prefer the factory option. That is just personal preference. Many posts on here with people happy with aftermarket ones.
I would be interested to know what brand grapple he is quoting the price on.

 

[qstott]

I just bought a WR Long 64" OBG2 grapple for $2500.00. The price included a diverter valve and hoses. I put in on the front of my JD 4720. The Deere dealership labor was $440 on top of the grapple price for a total of $2940.00 installed. The OBG2 weighs 685 lbs. I was a bit concerned about the weight, but the 400 cx loader has picked up anything I tried with it so far. I've been moving some pine and sweet gum logs about 18 to 24" in diameter with a length of 8 to 14 feet. Search for WR Long and check out the grapples on their web page. It's very well made, and I don't think even I can tear it up

 

[DT86]

I had to run look at my paper work and double check my numbers. I got a Kubota true third function valve installed for $1000, 84" X-treme Root Grapple from CID Attachments including shipping and all hoses and hose ends for $2,800, the feeling I get using it...Priceless. :thumbsup:

 

[MtnViewRanch]

OK, have all but decided on the Mahindra 5035 HST. The dealer wants to sell me a heavy duty grapple (set up and installed) for $3,995. That seems pretty high to me. Sorry, I forgot to check on the make and model. It looked real serious, but not super wide. Any thoughts?

Are the kits for grapples expensive and are they difficult to set up for someone who has never done so? How much should that add to the price of a grapple?

Thanks! Rob

Rob, if you get the diverter valve for the front, operated with a button or switch that is located in-on the loader control handle. ( which I highly recommend by the way) The valve installed with the hoses and quick connects run up to and fastened at the front of the loader should run you in the neighborhood of $1000 + or - a few $$. OR you can just run a set of hoses forward from your rear remote and just use that. A lot less $$$, but not nearly as convenient.

You have looked at the grapples, there is just no way that you need anything that costs over $2k for the 5035. Isn't the dealer trying to sell you a grapple that he has on his lot? Forget about the one that he has, it's too much $$$$ for what you want or need. In my opinion you should get a root grapple such as we have talked about in the past. You can have it setting on the ground with the grapples wide open and hand load if need be, and with as much stuff that you have to move-clean up, there will be times when you will want to do just that.

You should be in the $3K arena for your 3rd function front control valve and a root grapple. When you order your 5035, don't forget to order both the rear remotes that they have for the tractor. 2nd one is optional. You will need both of them in the future for your top and tilt hydraulics when you get down to the grading portion of your project.

Good luck :thumbsup:

 

[cederstrand]

I queried the dealer and this is what he said:

W.R. Long 66" Tine Grapple

There is a Toggle Switch installed.

The second valve is $910 installed. Just for reference the first one is not used in the installation of the Grapple.

Are you going with the R-4 Industrial Tires?

Does this grapple sound OK or too expensive?
What about the second valve cost?

Are the Industrials the wider, shorter tires or the taller, narrower ones? I forgot. I have plenty of mud right now, but will also be working on a hillside and long term using this tractor more in horse pastures which I wouldn't want to tear up. Thoughts?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I queried the dealer and this is what he said:

W.R. Long 66" Tine Grapple

There is a Toggle Switch installed.

The second valve is $910 installed. Just for reference the first one is not used in the installation of the Grapple.

Are you going with the R-4 Industrial Tires?

Does this grapple sound OK or too expensive?
What about the second valve cost?

Are the Industrials the wider, shorter tires or the taller, narrower ones? I forgot. I have plenty of mud right now, but will also be working on a hillside and long term using this tractor more in horse pastures which I wouldn't want to tear up. Thoughts?

Can you post a link so that we can see what type of grapple that it is? I do not see a tine grapple and typically Long grapples are more money than other brands. From what I saw on WR Longs website, I would not get any grapple that they offer. But that is just me.

Is the price for the 2nd valve for the front remote or the rear? Either way it is about right for cost, Are you adding a remote for the front and the 2nd remote at the rear or just the 2nd remote at the rear? You mentioned a switch, but no cost. That would normally be used with the remote for the front to be used with the grapple. You should have 2 seperate remote costs, 1 for the front and 1 more to add the 2nd remote to the rear.

Yes the industrial tires (R4) are the shorter, but wider tires. Much tougher than the AG (R1) tall narrower tires.

 

[cederstrand]

I've asked him which exact model it is. Will post when I find out.

The second valve is for the back. The grapple "kit" comes with everything required for hook up and does not use the 1 rear remote that the Mahindra 5035 comes with. So the $3,995 includes the grapple, whatever remotes the kit comes with, and hooking it all up. That $910 price is for a second rear remote installed.

Still not sure if I really need (the expense of) an extra rear remote. Guess it would save from manually adjusting a boxblade, but setting all that up will sure add extra $$$ pain. Tough call.

Then it's the Industrial tires I will get. Might get a little "interesting" in the deep mud during those times of year (like right now). Overall these will do less damage to the pastures.

On a side note, the New Holland guy has offered a T4030 PS (75HP) for almost the same price as this little Mahindra, minus the grapple & boxblade. Already being over my initial budget, this makes it tempting to go with the much more powerful beast. Waiting to hear back what kind of grapple he has and just how good a deal he can make on it. Only downside is I would need to brush up on shifting, not required with HST. Plus, my body doesn't heal like it once did and ease of use is becoming more and more appealing these days. Still leaning towards the Mahindra.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I've asked him which exact model it is. Will post when I find out.

The second valve is for the back. The grapple "kit" comes with everything required for hook up and does not use the 1 rear remote that the Mahindra 5035 comes with. So the $3,995 includes the grapple, whatever remotes the kit comes with, and hooking it all up. That $910 price is for a second rear remote installed.

Still not sure if I really need (the expense of) an extra rear remote. Guess it would save from manually adjusting a boxblade, but setting all that up will sure add extra $$$ pain. Tough call.

Then it's the Industrial tires I will get. Might get a little "interesting" in the deep mud during those times of year (like right now). Overall these will do less damage to the pastures.

On a side note, the New Holland guy has offered a T4030 PS (75HP) for almost the same price as this little Mahindra, minus the grapple & boxblade. Already being over my initial budget, this makes it tempting to go with the much more powerful beast. Waiting to hear back what kind of grapple he has and just how good a deal he can make on it. Only downside is I would need to brush up on shifting, not required with HST. Plus, my body doesn't heal like it once did and ease of use is becoming more and more appealing these days. Still leaning towards the Mahindra.

Even with the valve, the dealer is $1000 high IMO. There is just no reason for you to be spending 3 grand on a grapple for the work that you will be doing with it. A $3000 grapple is one that gets used for demo work with concrete and re bar. And as far as I can tell, all the Long grapples have to pick up stuff, there is no bottom to lay stuff on. That's fine if that is what a person needs of wants, but not the best design IMO for what you are going to be doing.

So if you were to add in the cost of the grapple and box blade, then the New Holland is $4-5k higher? So it is more tractor for more money, make sense, you could do the same thing with a bigger Mahindra also.


Just my opinion on stuff, good luck with your decisions.

 

[cederstrand]

Brian, thanks for the input. I "could" always use such a grapple to demo one old shed here. It is the last of them still missing a roof from tornado night. Keep debating if I want to re-roof it, save the structure and put in a new floor.

Another (major) shed is gradually being crushed by a big tree which is way beyond any utility tractor. Even my neighbor with a decent trackhoe and heavy cables won't attempt it, so there is another chunk of money I'll need to pay a tree removing crew. $1,500 estimate...ouch!

All I really want to do is saddle up a new tractor and get to work on the fun stuff, of which there is plenty.

 

[F250DSLPWR]

Just search grappleon TBN. I just bought a Wildkat grapple and have been using it heavily. No complaints. Just don't buy the super heavy duty one like I bought, they are way over built with super heavy duty construction. The light duty grapple would have been just fine.

 

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

Get the 5035 coming, as it is all the tractor you need. Do some online shopping and if you have some mechanical ability order a meduim duty grapple and needed valving.

 

[slofr8]

I bought a 4035 this summer and then ordered a grapple from gator. It had to ship to a business and I asked the dealer if I could have it shipped to him and he said sure. I was way busy at work and was stressing as to when I'd have time to set it up and he said he could do it if I wanted him to. Sure, go ahead.
He did a much better job then I ever could have. He welded brackets to hold quick disconnect fittings and drilled and taped holders for the hoses on the loader arms. he even had to replace the fittings because the grapple came with skid steer type fittings. I wanted to use the rear remote instead of a switch on the loader lever and he did a fantastic job. Neat and real easy to change over to the bucket.
I didn't want to think of what he was charging me because I really did not have time to do the job he did.
I waited and waited for the bill and confronted him. "lets see how it works first" he said. Well it works great and I told him so. It's been long enough that I'm convinced this was a freebie. Fantastic service. My tractor has been there now for warranty work and I'm not bothering him at all. Tit for tat.
Dan.